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Is Ashwin an ATG spinner / player?

Daemon

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I like how we have 400+ posts in this thread but no one is actually really disagreeing with anyone.

Pretty much everyone acknowledges that Ashwin is short of an ATG, incredible in home conditions and has been improving on a not great overseas record over the last few years.
 
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subshakerz

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Daemon said:
I like how we have 400+ posts in this thread but no one is actually really disagreeing with anyone.

Pretty much everyone acknowledges that Ashwin is short of an ATG, incredible in home conditions and has been improving on a not great overseas record over the last few years.
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Yes true.
I think there are a few who already consider him an ATG player while some do not.
 
h_hurricane

h_hurricane

International Vice-Captain
On a side note, if Ashwin takes 12 wickets at 20 in SA (an arbitrary number), he would average sub 30 in SA as well overall. Australia would be the only country where he would be having a poor record(but then again 2 series victories). I would absolutely consider him an ATG then.

Go Ravi, go.
 
honestbharani

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Nikhil99.94 said:
Then how many spinners are regarded ATGs by everyone?
O’Reilly
Warne
Murali
Grimmett
Laker
This is the top 5,Verity completes the top 6,the 3 are regarded ATG by everyone but some won’t consider Grimmett,laker,verity as ATGs.
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Why can you speak for everyone? If you are so sure you speak for everyone, why the **** are you in this forum? :laugh:
 
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Xix2565

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Nikhil99.94 said:
Then how many spinners are regarded ATGs by everyone?
O’Reilly
Warne
Murali
Grimmett
Laker
This is the top 5,Verity completes the top 6,the 3 are regarded ATG by everyone but some won’t consider Grimmett,laker,verity as ATGs.
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No Kumble? Not everyone is beholden to past you know.
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Daemon said:
I like how we have 400+ posts in this thread but no one is actually really disagreeing with anyone.

Pretty much everyone acknowledges that Ashwin is short of an ATG, incredible in home conditions and has been improving on a not great overseas record over the last few years.
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ATG cricketer, not quite ATG yet bowler.
 
ankitj

ankitj

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How much does Ashwin climb the ranks here:

mr_mister said:
since i love stats so much here's the final breakdown


The overall rankings:

1. Shane Warne (652)
2. Bill O’Reilly (631)
3. Muttiah Muralitharan (612)
4. Clarrie Grimmett (519)
5. Jim Laker (504)
6. Hedley Verity (418)
7. Hugh Tayfield (352)
8. Anil Kumble(298)
9. Derek Underwood (295)
10. Richie Benaud (293)
11. Lance Gibbs (270)
12. Bishen Bedi (234)
13. Rangana Herath (226)
14. Bhagwath Chandrasekhar (197)
15. Subhash Gupte (194)
16. Ravi Ashwin (176)
17. Wilfred Rhodes (144)
18. Saqlain Mushtaq (137)
19. Hugh Trumble (122)
20. Erapalli Prasanna (116)
21. Stuart MacGill (115)
22. Abdul Qadir (98)
23. Johnny Wardle (97)
24. Graeme Swann (90)
25. Colin Blythe (59)
26. Johnny Briggs (54) (
27. Bert Ironmonger (52)
28. Nathan Lyon (48)
29. Bobby Peel (33) and Daniel Vettori (33)
31. Harbhajan Singh (28)
32. Tony Lock (27)
33. Ashley Mallett (26)
34. Sonny Ramadhin (20)
35. Tich Freeman (17)
36. Bert Vogler (15) and Arthur Mailey (15)
38. Aubrey Faulkner (14)
39. Bernard Bosanquet (13)
40. Mushtaq Ahmed (11)
41. Jack Iverson (10)
42. Shakib Al-Hasan (7)
43. Iqbal Qasim (3)


The rankings within spin disciplines:


Leg Break Googly

1 Shane Warne (652)
2 Bill O’Reilly (631)
3 Clarrie Grimmett (519)
4 Anil Kumble(298)
5 Richie Benaud (293)
6 Bhagwat Chandrasekhar (197)
7 Subhash Gupte (194)
8 Stuart MacGill (115)
9 Abdul Qadir (98)
10 Tich Freeman (17)
11 Bert Vogler (15) and Arthur Mailey (15)
13 Aubrey Faulkner (14)
14 Bernard Bosanquet (13)
15 Mushtaq Ahmed (11)
16 Jack Iverson (10)

Right Arm Offbreak

1 Muttiah Muralitharan (612)
2 Jim Laker (504)
3 Hugh Tayfield (352)
4 Lance Gibbs 270)
5 Ravi Ashwin (176)
6 Saqlain Mushtaq (137)
7 Hugh Trumble (122)
8 Erapalli Prasanna (116)
9 Graeme Swann (90)
10 Nathan Lyon (48)
11 Harbhajan Singh (28)
12 Ashley Mallett (26)
13 Sonny Ramadhin (20)

Slow Left Arm Orthodox

1 Hedley Verity (418)
2 Derek Underwood (295)
3 Bishen Bedi (234)
4 Rangana Herath (226)
5 Wilfred Rhodes (144)
6 Johnny Wardle (97)
7 Colin Blythe (59)
8 Johnny Briggs (54)
9 Bert Ironmonger (52)
10 Bobby Peel (33) and Daniel Vettori (33)
12 Tony Lock (27)
13 Shakib Al-Hasan (7)
14 Iqbal Qasim (3)



And lastly, the WPM rankings:



1 Muttiah Muralitharan WPM 6.02
2 Clarrie Grimmett WPM 5.84
3 Tich Freeman WPM 5.50
4 Bill O’Reilly WPM 5.33
5 Ravi Ashwin WPM 5.31
6 Bert Ironmonger WPM 5.29
7 Colin Blythe WPM 5.26
8 Bobby Peel WPM 5.05
9 Shane Warne WPM 4.88
10 Stuart MacGill WPM 4.73
11 Arthur Mailey WPM 4.71
12 Anil Kumble WPM 4.69
13 Rangana Herath WPM 4.67
14 Hugh Tayfield WPM 4.59
15 Hugh Trumble WPM 4.41
16 Bert Vogler WPM 4.27
17 Graeme Swann WPM 4.25
18 Saqlain Mushtaq WPM 4.24
19 Jim Laker WPM 4.20 and Jack Iverson WPM 4.20
21 Bhagwat Chandrasekhar WPM 4.17
22 Subhash Gupte WPM 4.14
23 Harbhajan Singh WPM 4.05
24 Bishen Bedi WPM 3.97
25 Richie Benaud WPM 3.94
26 Nathan Lyon WPM 3.92
27 Lance Gibbs WPM 3.91
28 Erapalli Prasanna WPM 3.86
29 Shakib Al-Hasan WPM 3.70
30 Sonny Ramadhin WPM 3.67
31 Johnny Wardle WPM 3.64
32 Hedley Verity WPM 3.60
33 Johnny Briggs WPM 3.58
34 Bernard Bosanquet WPM 3.57
35 Mushtaq Ahmed WPM 3.56
36 Tony Lock WPM 3.55
37 Abdul Qadir WPM 3.52
38 Ashley Mallett WPM 3.47
39 Derek Underwood WPM 3.45
40 Iqbal Qasim WPM 3.42
41 Aubrey Faulkner WPM 3.28
42 Daniel Vettori WPM 3.20
43 Wilfred Rhodes WPM 2.19
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Xix2565

International Regular
Nikhil99.94 said:
He is in top 10 ,ashwin as well.You can argue both for being no.6,verity is my preference and other 5 deserve to be the top 5 even without considering my any bias.
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I disagree, considering you've not exactly been some sort of omniscient judge of cricketers. Especially if by past posts you're basically going on Bradman's feelings for rankings.
 
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