***Official New Zealand in India Nov-Dec 2021 Thread***

[Flem274*]

.....ok son

 

[hendrix]

Nah sprained neck is not the same as stiff neck, I think. And again, there maybe rules on the levels of injury if you want to get down to that level but as far as being fair goes, that can be managed with a neutral doctor being part of the match staff IMO.

I think that's a bit naive, and I think you're unlikely to get a definitive diagnosis for most minor muscular injuries.

With neck injuries we rule out anything serious - i.e. anything to the spinal column or any potential fracture with neurological features. Once this stuff is ruled out, we take a big sigh of relief, go and see more important patients and then once we're done might come back and give someone some paracetamol and ibuprofen.

Then have a look at musculoskeletal tenderness - these things are reassuring signs and then we can put down the diagnosis "neck sprain not otherwise specified". Basically the physical assessment is all about ruling out serious concerning injury. Then we can give e.g. muscle relaxants and pain relief or whatever.

If people want a definitive diagnosis of muscular neck pain they can go and order all types of fancy and expensive MRIs etc which may or may not come back with something definitive. But from the point of view of most I doubt you're going to get a super definitive diagnosis of neck pain when there are no serious symptoms.

 

[Burgey]

Yeah but that should just be a case of **** happens. "Injuries" is too nebulous term to just automatically allow substitutions for it.

The Saha injury is "stiff neck".

Well ****, I get that walking down the street on a summer's day.

Stop walking on your ****ing head then

 

[Ghost]

Gentle reminder that Kurt Angle won an Olympic Gold medal with a broken freaking neck

Oh it’s true, it’s damn true

 

[honestbharani]

Terrific effort so far by Latham. I guess he is seen as a bit of a SC expert and he has certainly shown why. Of course, our captain keeps giving sighters by bowling seamers needlessly with the new ball is annoying but he has been pretty much chanceless even against the spinners.

I hope sense prevails and we actually see Ashwin and Axar bowling in tandem at least post lunch. If they need about 210 in 2 sessions, and we get another hour that fetches only 30 runs then I think the win will slowly go out of the question for NZ too, so it will be interesting to see how they start post lunch.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

I don't get it

 

[GotSpin]

Neutral doctors. Grim

 

[Athlai]

We started the day at a maybe a 1% to win and I reckon now we might be 5-10% with probably 50% of a draw. Spectacular stuff from Somers

 

[_Ed_]

Ooh, drop?

EDIT: No.

 

[honestbharani]

JUz so annoying to watch this clueless display from India with the ball, tbh. Ash and Axar have bowled like 18 overs between them for like 24 runs and yet we have seen 10 overs of the ****ing seamers. ?

I understand Umesh or Ishant bowling now and them trying short stuff and yorkers etc but at the start of the day, you give your best bowlers the best chance with the new ball. Woeful captaincy and now drops the ball at slips too.

 

[hendrix]

Fantastic session. Triple it.

 

[Gnske]

Latham being selfish again. Literally ruining it for NZ. He's going to cost them 9 wickets more

 

[Athlai]

How many runs does Somerville need for best nightwatchman innings in history?

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Amazing session. Well batted

 

[Moss]

What a good session. Love how this test continues to shift back and forth.

Very much an uphill climb still for NZ. Goal should be to get to tea 1 or max 2 down and then evaluate what's possible.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

How many runs does Somerville need for best nightwatchman innings in history?

Jason Gillespie will be hard to top

 

[wellAlbidarned]

if there's a will there's a way, and we've got three

yes I stole that

 

[Niall]

JUz so annoying to watch this clueless display from India with the ball, tbh. Ash and Axar have bowled like 18 overs between them for like 24 runs and yet we have seen 10 overs of the ****ing seamers. ?

I understand Umesh or Ishant bowling now and them trying short stuff and yorkers etc but at the start of the day, you give your best bowlers the best chance with the new ball. Woeful captaincy and now drops the ball at slips too.

Rahane is supposedly a tactical genius, but heh at least he has his batting to fall back on.

Very odd that Siraj was not picked for this test, much better than the 2 seamers on display.

 

[Burgey]

How many runs does Somerville need for best nightwatchman innings in history?

Lawood and Eddie Hemmings both made 90s as nightwatchmen.

And Gillespie made 200. So he's a ways off I'd say.

 

[Days of Grace]

How many runs does Somerville need for best nightwatchman innings in history?

Quite a few more…

Best night watchman innings by a New Zealander would be interesting.