Imran Khan vs Dale Steyn

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In tests

 

[subshakerz]

Good topic.

I go for Imran. More consistent, more dominant, and more destructive.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Steyn
Alltime Top 5 Bowler

 

[_00_deathscar]

Steyn is the best I’ve seen which includes McGrath, Ambrose and co.

 

[subshakerz]

I was a big fan of Steyn but we tend to look back and remember his highlights rather than all the ordinary spells he bowled when he was taken apart by KP, Clarke, Warner, and others. Yes, he had an insane strikerate, but also a very high ER. Meaning, if he wasnt striking, he would often be a liability and give the advantage to the opposition. Nothing is more demoralizing for a team than seeing your lead bowler being taken to the cleaners.

Compare that to other ATGs like Ambrose, Imran and McGrath, who if they werent producing matchwinning spells would at least keep the pressure on the opposition. It is worth waiting a few more deliveries to take a wicket if you are keeping the batsman under your thumb.

 

[subshakerz]

Again, this is not to say that was the norm for Steyn but more of an issue relative to others at an ATG level.

 

[_00_deathscar]

I was a big fan of Steyn but we tend to look back and remember his highlights rather than all the ordinary spells he bowled when he was taken apart by KP, Clarke, Warner, and others. Yes, he had an insane strikerate, but also a very high ER. Meaning, if he wasnt striking, he would often be a liability and give the advantage to the opposition. Nothing is more demoralizing for a team than seeing your lead bowler being taken to the cleaners.

Compare that to other ATGs like Ambrose, Imran and McGrath, who if they werent producing matchwinning spells would at least keep the pressure on the opposition. It is worth waiting a few more deliveries to take a wicket if you are keeping the batsman under your thumb.

2 things:
1. The high(er) ER is a consequence of era and pitches
2. So he gave away 3.x runs an over. He took a wicket next over of that dude…backed up his low average and insane strike rate.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Steyn being taken apart was a relatively rare occurrence that its basically a non-factor. subshakerz talks about it like it happened every couple of games or something. Highly overstated.

 

[subshakerz]

2 things:
1. The high(er) ER is a consequence of era and pitches
2. So he gave away 3.x runs an over. He took a wicket next over of that dude…backed up his low average and insane strike rate.

1. The few worldclass bowling peers of his bowling peak (Philander, Anderson and Ryan Harris) managed much better ERs.

2. That wasn't Steyn's MO. His wickets were clumped around specific tests, in the middle of other barren tests. He had a tendency to go missing for inexplicable reasons.

 

[OverratedSanity]

2 things:
1. The high(er) ER is a consequence of era and pitches

Nah more so that his MO was "IDGAF if you drive me I'll pitch it up". I have immense respect for it. **** those boring corridor length bowlers.

 

[subshakerz]

Steyn being taken apart was a relatively rare occurrence that its basically a non-factor. subshakerz talks about it like it happened every couple of games or something. Highly overstated.

Did you see my comment above?

'Again, this is not to say that was the norm for Steyn but more of an issue relative to others at an ATG level.'

 

[subshakerz]

Nah more so that his MO was "IDGAF if you drive me I'll pitch it up". I have immense respect for it. **** those boring corridor length bowlers.

It's not like guys like Marshall or Imran were corridor bowlers, but they werent torn apart like Steyn.

Just to clarify, there are two issues here. One is being taken apart, which happened to Steyn rarely but moreso than other ATGs. The other was going missing during series for no reason which was more common.

 

[subshakerz]

Another point I give for Imran is destructiveness. Imran took an impressive two 8fers and three 7fers in his career, compared to Steyn who took only one 7fer in a long career. Steyn's lack of monster hauls is surprising actually, even bowlers like Marshall and McGrath did better despite higher quality bowling support to compete for wickets with.

Not a deciding factor but just a point in Imran's favor.

 

[h_hurricane]

Good topic.

I go for Imran. More consistent, more dominant, and more destructive.

This can't be true when Steyn took his wickets at a strike rate of 10 deliveries faster than Imran.

 

[subshakerz]

This can't be true when Steyn took his wickets at a strike rate of 10 deliveries faster than Imran.

Destructiveness in terms of running through a side on his lonesome.

 

[Coronis]

I’ll go with Steyn, personally. Possibly a little biased due to actually watching him, but also he seemed more dominant compared to his peers than Imran.

 

[subshakerz]

I’ll go with Steyn, personally. Possibly a little biased due to actually watching him, but also he seemed more dominant compared to his peers than Imran.

What if his peers were Marshall and Hadlee?

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

What if his peers were Marshall and Hadlee?

He would be competing for top spot than settling at 3.
?

 

[Migara]

Steyn being taken apart was a relatively rare occurrence that its basically a non-factor. subshakerz talks about it like it happened every couple of games or something. Highly overstated.

Having said that Imran, Wasim and Waqar were not immune from taken apart. Aravinda de Silva himself taken apart all above three at various times. There is no ATG bowler that had been never taken apart.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Having said that Imran, Wasim and Waqar were not immune from taken apart. Aravinda de Silva himself taken apart all above three at various times. There is no ATG bowler that had been never taken apart.

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