Top 3 players of Fast bowling in last 50 years ?

[kyear2]

Yep, he loved "fearless" cricketers and admired Gavaskar playing in his floppy hat and Viv staring down fast bowlers. These were the two top batsman of his time according to him.

He also declared when Miandad was on 280 against India because he wanted to win and didn't really care for personal milestones. Miandad never forgave him for that and thought that Imran did it out of spite.

How much time was left? And did they win?

 

[OverratedSanity]

Sachin was quality against pace but he never really dominated them like Ponting and Viv did. I can think of his 98 in 2003 World Cup vs Shoaib and Wasim as well as his 169 at Cape Town where he kept hammering Donald for fours with on drives as rare examples of him attacking pace. Otherwise like Joe Root he would play them well without taking them on.

He was just as if not more effective tbf especially against lateral movement . Don't think attacking more necessarily makes you better against pace bowlers.

 

[smash84]

How much time was left? And did they win?

I think he declared on the 3rd day, there was plenty of time but it was a real roady road. Mudassar Nazar also got a double hundred in the same innings. Pak did win by an innings.

Edit: Here's the full scorecard

PAK vs IND Cricket Scorecard, 4th Test at Hyderabad, January 14 - 19, 1983

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[harsh.ag]

Sachin smashed pacers in ODIs so it's not like he couldn't do it. Just put a higher price on his wicket in tests. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[kyear2]

I think he declared on the 3rd day, there was plenty of time but it was a real roady road. Mudassar Nazar also got a double hundred in the same innings. Pak did win by an innings.

Edit: Here's the full scorecard

PAK vs IND Cricket Scorecard, 4th Test at Hyderabad, January 14 - 19, 1983

Get cricket scorecard of 4th Test, PAK vs IND, India tour of Pakistan 1982/83 at Niaz Stadium, Hyderabad, Sind dated January 14 - 19, 1983.

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Seems justifiable.

 

[Kirkut]

He was just as if not more effective tbf especially against lateral movement . Don't think attacking more necessarily makes you better against pace bowlers.

True, but I'm talking here about bowlers who rely on sheer pace and bowl gun barrel straight like MJ, Tait, Akhtar and sometimes Donald. Ponting loved smashing express bowlers, which is why he was destined for greatness even after making an ordinary start to his test career.

 

[CricAddict]

I think he declared on the 3rd day, there was plenty of time but it was a real roady road. Mudassar Nazar also got a double hundred in the same innings. Pak did win by an innings.

Edit: Here's the full scorecard

PAK vs IND Cricket Scorecard, 4th Test at Hyderabad, January 14 - 19, 1983

Get cricket scorecard of 4th Test, PAK vs IND, India tour of Pakistan 1982/83 at Niaz Stadium, Hyderabad, Sind dated January 14 - 19, 1983.

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That Indian team is really carried by Kapil Dev in bowling and Gavaskar in batting. No one else worth noting.

 

[Line and Length]

Very little mention being made of openers. They face the combination of pace, the new ball and fresh bowlers.

 

[OverratedSanity]

That Indian team is really carried by Kapil Dev in bowling and Gavaskar in batting. No one else worth noting.

Quite harsh on Amarnath, Vesngsarkar and Viswanath. It's probably a better batting lineup than our current one

Bowling wise yea it was Kapil+scrubs

 

[Slifer]

That Indian team is really carried by Kapil Dev in bowling and Gavaskar in batting. No one else worth noting.

Umm no. India then had a very solid middle order. Armanath, Viswanath and Vengsarkar were all very very solid. Plus Dev coming in after them. Very solid batting lineup. Arguably better than what India currently have.

 

[subshakerz]

Quite harsh on Amarnath, Vesngsarkar and Viswanath. It's probably a better batting lineup than our current one

Bowling wise yea it was Kapil+scrubs

Yup makes Imran's bowling achievements during that series all that more outstanding.

 

[Red]

Boon was pretty solid against pace.

 

[Burgey]

Boon was pretty solid

No need to fat shame the bloke, mate.

 

[Red]

No need to fat shame the bloke, mate.

It was a different era. He’d be ok with it.

 

[Salamuddin]

Imo:

Viv
Steve Waugh
Ricky Ponting

Clive Lloyd was pretty solid vs pace as well.

How about Richie Richardson ?

 

[mr_mister]

Daryl Cullinan I assume must have been good against pace since he apparently couldn't play Warne worth a damn and still averaged mid 40s

 

[Prince Of Ceylon]

Yeah Ponting, Gavaskar , Lara, Chappell were the other 4 , I had in mind. There are many other players. But had to pick only 3.

Lara is the best batsman I've ever seen BUT against pace he could on occasion be a bit suscpect

 

[Prince Of Ceylon]

Its a great regret of mine that I did not see Viv or that era play. However, I have heard Viv did not play his own WI bowlers well at domestic level.

Having watched cricket predominantly in the 90s - where there were so many great fast bowlers, I would rate the following:

#1, Aravinda De Silva - quite comfortably imo. Record number of centuries against PAK despite playing for a rubbish SL side most of the time. Even hooked Imran for 6 for his first century. To dominate Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Zahid and Mahmood. Kind of puts him in a league of his own. I've heard a lot of pace bowlers say he was the best they bowled to.

#2, Martin Crowe - Great player of pace but did not DOMINATE Akram like De Silva did - he was a more defensive player. De Silva was a better stroke maker. There were times when he made Akram look amatuer. Still Crowe was excellent against pace.

#3 Ricky Ponting - Great player of pace. Could hook and pull brilliantly against them. Fearless too. Only reason I've got him at 3 is I felt he was a bit lucky not to face 90s pace bowlers regularly the same way De Silva and CROWE HAD TOO. Would of been interesting to see how he fared against prime Wasim if he faced him consistently. Generally when I saw him play he sometimes needed to settle in and then go after the pace attack. Whereas, guys like De Silva and Sanath could go after them from ball 1.

Honourable mentions:

1, Steve Waugh - solid against pace but not naturally gifted. He was not comfortable against short pitched bowling at all but seldom got out to it.
2, David boon - mentally very tough and great against WI attack
3, Mark Waugh - simply put a genius - played Akram brilliantly at times. Very underrated - should be in top 3 but I gave Punter the edge bcos of his attitude and ability to hook
4, Robin Smith - Square of the wicket was the best around along with Steve waugh at times
5, Adam Gilchrist - Attacking great pure striker but vulnerable to swing bowling imo and Flintoff exposed him around the wicket.
6, Saeed Anwar - Always thought he was brillaint against pace (and spin) but my Pakistani friend told me he was only good on flat pitches.
7, Richie Richardson & Carl Hooper.

 

[Prince Of Ceylon]

Boon was pretty solid against pace.

Agreed

 

[Chrish]

I don’t think genuinely great player of pace bowling has ever existed in the history of the game. There have been players who have almost completely dominated spin bowling; pace equivalent of that doesn’t really exist IMO.