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Dhoni v Gilchrist
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Fuller Pilch
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All 3 formats clearly Gilchrist. White ball is too close to call (perhaps MSD).
TheJediBrah
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which one brings the best arvo tea?
Dhoni is surely ahead in T20I/T20 too by the stats.
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TheJediBrah
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nah no way. Prime Gilchrist would have been a T20 god and Dhoni wasn't great in the format
Doubt Gilchrist would have better stats than Jason Roy in t20i given a long run of games. If you prefer Jason Roy's stats to Dhoni's in t20i for a team's benefit that's your call
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Gilchrist easy.
Dhoni didn't do much in T20Is. 2 50s in 80+ innings and not a particularly high SR either. Gilchrist barely played the format, so I'm inclined to ignore this.
The distance Gilchrist is ahead of Dhoni in Tests is a lot higher than the opposite in ODIs imo.
Dhoni didn't do much in T20Is. 2 50s in 80+ innings and not a particularly high SR either. Gilchrist barely played the format, so I'm inclined to ignore this.
The distance Gilchrist is ahead of Dhoni in Tests is a lot higher than the opposite in ODIs imo.
honestbharani
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The OP said build a team around. Which means the captaincy becomes vital. Without Dhoni, I do not see India surviving losing the golden generation within a year or each other basically. His captaincy means Dhoni easily over Gilchrist.
And FWIW, I do think the fact that MSD is a 40+ averaging batsman in SC and SC like conditions means the difference in their test output is also only as much as their difference in ODI output.
And FWIW, I do think the fact that MSD is a 40+ averaging batsman in SC and SC like conditions means the difference in their test output is also only as much as their difference in ODI output.
And if not captain I would rather my captain be able to tactically confer with Dhoni when he wants than Gilchrist . Dhoni is the better keeper too in my view. You will get extra team runs from his running too compared to Gilchrist at times which can be forgotten thinking about a player.
Spark
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On what basis? Dhoni was an excellent keeper to spin but Gilchrist was no slouch (and, obviously, critical to multiple subcontinent tour victories) and Dhoni was horrible in challenging seaming conditions
On the basis of my opinion overall for a three format team. Gilchrist is better vs seam and Dhoni vs spin.
_00_deathscar
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The captaincy package is possibly the only thing that swings this in Dhoni’s favour but he was also a meh test captain so **** that ****
The captaincy package is possibly the only thing that swings this in Dhoni’s favour but he was also a meh test captain so **** that ****
honestbharani
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horrible?
honestbharani
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3 tests are enough to judge a captain now?
And that IPL trophy was good but MSD has been leading them to wins and playoffs every season inspite of a very limited team each year. MSD is in a different stratosphere as a captain. And Gilly struggled a bit less than MSD when the ball swung as a keeper but at the end of the day, they dropped around the same percentage of chances, so it really does not mean much.MSD = Gilly as a bat across formats.
MSD >> Gilly as a captain across formats.
Gilly ~= MSD as a keeper across formats.
sunilz
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No way MSD =Gilly as a bat considering the difference in their test batting.3 tests are enough to judge a captain now?
MSD = Gilly as a bat across formats.
MSD >> Gilly as a captain across formats.
Gilly ~= MSD as a keeper across formats.
TheJediBrah
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HB just doing HB things
honestbharani
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Yes way when you give up bias and see actual performances across 3 formats.
Yeah, I know you hate facts and reality.
sunilz
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Dhoni was inferior to Gilly in Test. Was garbage T20 I bat. I don't give much importance to T20 leagues.
This is why I also consider Kohli > Devilliers &Gayle in T20 batting because of huge difference in their batting average in T20 I .