***Official NBA Thread***

[Anil]

Fair to say Simmons does not have a healthy relationship with the Sixers right now.

he is an idiot...what does he gain by sitting out? i guess if he is after ever diminishing trade value, he has exactly the right strategy...

 

[duffer]

None of the teams that want him have a perennial All-Star, which is what Philly want in return. This saga has legs...

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

he is an idiot...what does he gain by sitting out? i guess if he is after ever diminishing trade value, he has exactly the right strategy...

Of course he wants diminishing trade value. The team he goes to is better for not having to give up as much and the longer it goes on the longer the more the Sixers have to lose. I'm no fan of his as a player but if he wants a move this is exactly the right strategy for him. You don't want to gut the team you go to like Carmelo did.

 

[Anil]

ok got it but how do we know if that's why he is doing it? based on the reports it sounds more like his ego was hurt and he is pouting, more than a deliberate decision to get traded for less value? and what if the sixers refuse to budge and on top of it, withhold his salary, hit him with sanctions/fines...wouldn't he lose, like a lot? why do you feel the sixers just don't have a choice here?

 

[duffer]

No good team wants him. Unless that changes all of a sudden he's walking into a losing situation.

Philly's big problem here is that keeping him makes everything toxic but trading him without satisfactory returns will piss off their MVP candidate and their fanbase.

 

[duffer]

Lol, just saw an article saying Denver are a 'sleeper team' in the Simmons sweepstakes.

Oh, god.....

 

[andruid]

Lol, just saw an article saying Denver are a 'sleeper team' in the Simmons sweepstakes.

Oh, god.....

I saw one on Hardwood Houdini describing 'Marcus Smart as a 'key piece' in a Ben Simmons trade.

 

[duffer]

I saw one on Hardwood Houdini describing 'Marcus Smart as a 'key piece' in a Ben Simmons trade.

For us, it only really works out salary wise if we're trading Murray if it's a 2 teamer. On a 3 teamer I could see us maybe shifting Gordon and others to make way for Simmons which would probably piss AG off after we tied him down to a long term deal. Unless he lands on another top team, I guess.

 

[Anil]

hey the lakers are picking up every overpriced, overrated or over-the-hill player in the market for this season, maybe they can trade all their remaining players in their 20s and bring in simmons...

 

[andruid]

A Simmons-Westbrook back court?

 

[social]

For us, it only really works out salary wise if we're trading Murray if it's a 2 teamer. On a 3 teamer I could see us maybe shifting Gordon and others to make way for Simmons which would probably piss AG off after we tied him down to a long term deal. Unless he lands on another top team, I guess.

can’t be traded for 6 months

 

[social]

hey the lakers are picking up every overpriced, overrated or over-the-hill player in the market for this season, maybe they can trade all their remaining players in their 20s and bring in simmons...

Simmons is seriously underrated right now

 

[duffer]

can’t be traded for 6 months

Ah, still got plenty of time then

 

[social]

Ah, still got plenty of time then

Nuggets really only have Murray for salary matching

Won’t happen unless he’s truly crocked

 

[duffer]

Nuggets really only have Murray for salary matching

Won’t happen unless he’s truly crocked

If they get more teams involved we have coveted pieces but Morey needs to get an All Star level player to avoid a mutiny. I think this gets even nastier pretty soon.

 

[social]

If they get more teams involved we have coveted pieces but Morey needs to get an All Star level player to avoid a mutiny. I think this gets even nastier pretty soon.

Sixers have really fkd this up

Obviously a lot of **** has gone down behind closed doors

 

[duffer]

Sixers have really fkd this up

Obviously a lot of **** has gone down behind closed doors

What's the market for him right now? Playoff teams can't trust him with the ball at the pointy end of games/the season, so it crosses them off. Tanking teams won't want to give up any young assets they have for him, which leaves teams that don't fall into either of those categories and that list is miniscule.

 

[Anil]

Simmons is seriously underrated right now

not as a star on a contender...

 

[social]

What's the market for him right now? Playoff teams can't trust him with the ball at the pointy end of games/the season, so it crosses them off. Tanking teams won't want to give up any young assets they have for him, which leaves teams that don't fall into either of those categories and that list is miniscule.

Demand won’t be the issue, price will be

Simmons has a really low usage rate so that part of it is overblown

He’s basically a much better version of Draymond even if he never realises his potential so GSW themselves would be better

He would make the Jazz much better in the playoffs as would Blazers etc

Definitely tanking teams should be out as he’s going to win them games

Biggest issue is situation in Philly as nobody is going to overpay for a guy sitting out

 

[social]

not as a star on a contender...

Bradley Beal, LaVine etc don’t win you as many games as Simmons

What are they worth?