The Endgame of Kohli

[Himannv]

It's all over once he snaps his fingers?

 

[honestbharani]

Those actions don't mean he's arrogant, I agree. But the opposite?

As in, opposite of arrogant being insecure.

 

[Pratters]

Kohli is a fine test captain. He gets the wins.

 

[SteveNZ]

YOu did not watch the SCG test, did you? I dont know about Root and KW, but Smith has the same "up yours" mentality that you insist Virat has. And IMO, he has it to a greater degree than even Virat.

He's certainly not out there shooshing crowds and beating his chest. I didn't see the SCG Test so I can't comment. To a greater degree than Virat? I'd be surprised. So many times I've seen India take a wicket and Virat is off in the other direction, beating his chest and roaring then oh yeah, better go and check on my mates.

 

[SteveNZ]

Kohli is a fine test captain. He gets the wins.

I don't think this marries up. India have a great side and should win. Does Virat's captaincy enhance this? Plenty of people, including me, don't think so.

 

[honestbharani]

I don't think this marries up. India have a great side and should win. Does Virat's captaincy enhance this? Plenty of people, including me, don't think so.

You think he had no role in us actually having a fast bowling attack and depth now? Plenty of people, including you, are just wrong and/or biased, tbh.

 

[honestbharani]

He's certainly not out there shooshing crowds and beating his chest. I didn't see the SCG Test so I can't comment. To a greater degree than Virat? I'd be surprised. So many times I've seen India take a wicket and Virat is off in the other direction, beating his chest and roaring then oh yeah, better go and check on my mates.

Yes to all. And honestly, if you think how wickets are celebrated is the only indication of a person's character, good luck in life.

 

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[SteveNZ]

You think he had no role in us actually having a fast bowling attack and depth now? Plenty of people, including you, are just wrong and/or biased, tbh.

I'm not biased. I don't dislike the guy. And hell, my team beats his quite a lot, so I've got no reason to be filthy about it.

I might be wrong - I did question whether it was arrogance, I didn't definitively say it was. But how does a captain build a fast bowling attack? And depth? I thought coaches mostly did that, or national programs, or potentially selectors who expose them. Kane Williamson is a gun captain but I'd never suggest he has anything to do with our bowling stocks or our strong 2nd XI.

 

[SteveNZ]

Yes to all. And honestly, if you think how wickets are celebrated is the only indication of a person's character, good luck in life.

Don't get carried away about it. By all means, defend him. Good on you that you think he's great. I don't see him all the time, so I'm just enquiring. I never said that's how you judge a person. I just wondered if it was some level of indication of the sort of person he is - because it looks ridiculous. And not for a second do I agree with you that he was doing it to his own Army to suggest they play.

 

[honestbharani]

I am not defending him. I am just saying perceiving simple things to be arrogance is not right. And yes, he has many faults which I have called out very many times in these forums. He can be pig headed about his opinions, I mean the guy started his captaincy career benching Ashwin for Karn ****ing Sharma and got handed a loss for it. He is just biased towards fast bowlers himself. He has a fast bowling boner and fitness boner and he has insisted on these things all the way through. He used to give Umesh and Shami spells in India when the spinners are clearly running through the side, just to keep them interested and in the wickets. He always wanted to play a 4 man fast bowling attack and was the reason why Hardik was fast tracked to tests. And tbf, he is reaping the rewards for his own efforts. Its not like only he is responsible but he is as big a part of it as anyone else and possibly the biggest.

 

[silentstriker]

You are not worried now when Kohli has excuse for every loss in important knockout matches.

The only one I care about remotely was the Test championship. I don’t follow ODI/T20 so it’s irrelevant to me what he does there.

I am certainly not a Kohli fan, but credit must be given where it is due.

 

[Uppercut]

Yeah arrogant isn’t the right word. He’s childish.

It makes me like him more, because it adds so much colour and narrative tension to the game. Enjoying watching sport is about losing enough perspective to feel like it really matters, and that’s much easier when the participants themselves seem to have zero sense of perspective. But even though I like him for it, it also makes me want him to lose.

 

[Teja.]

Yeah arrogant isn’t the right word. He’s childish.

There's an untranslatable Hindi word starting with c and ending with 'iya' that diagnoses Kohli most accurately.

 

[Flem274*]

He's smart tbh. Every game can be made into and Indian home game very easily due to their following, and he knows this and ramps up the crowd by running around pretending to be a hard ****.

I like it because it's funnier when India lose. They're a team I really enjoy to watch but then you see them in the field and listen to commentators with scabbed knees and IPL gigs discuss then and you can't help but see them as the villain and pile on when they lose.

Plus of course there's their 20 year history of the rich kid playing the victim. It's really impressive how a cricket side with their story is just as easy to dislike as an Australian team full of batsmen courageous enough to abuse people from the safety of the slip cordon and the laws of the game.

Kohli loves test cricket and I like him a lot when he speaks off the field so that plus the above makes him a great addition to the game.

 

[Arachnodouche]

He's a man-child and a classic case of arrested development on the field, though surprisingly calm off it, but this Indian team is made in his image and it responds to him and his obnoxious energy.

 

[Flem274*]

Yeah, exactly how I felt about it. I don't want that to muddy the fact that he is a wonderful batsman and has done a lot for Indian cricket. But like you, I find it weird how much he seems to require extrinsic motivation to do what he does. I don't see that in Kane Williamson. I don't see it in Steve Smith. I don't see it in Joe Root. They score runs and do well for the joy it brings them, not to prove others wrong. The shoosh finger in sport is such a juvenile action, whether it's football, cricket, whatever. Celebrate a wicket because it means something to you and the team, not because it shuts up 'the haterz'.

I wish Kane was a touch more evil tbh. Not in a try hard way like Kohli or the sookiness of Smith's captaincy stint, but in the way where Wagner and Jamieson aren't allowed to eat unless they lose their match fees.

Fleming's side shot itself in the foot a lot with some of their internal stuff but I do think Cairns, Nash, Parore and Richardson being highly competitive, overly intense pricks was a net positive for the team performance.

 

[Flem274*]

I think my favourite part of Kohli trying to be the alpha tough **** is how high and screechy his voice gets. It's like Mushfiqur Rahim (another try hard edgy ****) is out there after downing roids and a beer.

It's so funny if you're a neutral and so triggering if you're on the receiving end of it. Yeah calm down mate try not snicking off for 4 to the next wide outswinger you front foot bullying hack.

See? This is why Kohli is so fun. I can get into hating this guy on field. Root's just a nice young man who you would really like to please go away and stop ruining your day with his doube century. I want Kohli to be hit by a truck after he walks off yet again for 9.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

335- the number of white hair grown on Kohli’s face since his last international century.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

As in, opposite of arrogant being insecure.

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