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***Official*** 4th Test @ The Oval, London - 2nd-6th September

Jack1

International Debutant
Moeen's dismissal when England were starting to cruise yesterday looks like a big turning point in retrospect.
Robinson's shot and the Anderson run out were probably worse considering how Woakes batted - most fluent I've ever sen him in a Test. Avoiding those two dismissals could have potentially meant a hundred for Woakes, meaning at least 50 more runs between the 3 of them and massive momentum. Have to bear in mind Moeen was plumb lbw and they didn't appeal too - that was a streaky innings anyway - horrendous and unnecessary shot. Pope played a one day shot too and didn't get much stick - wouldn't say it was really a better shot choice than Moeen's, both very poor - and then Robinson did what he did after all that! Like Warne said though, you have to get out somehow (but there is still room to be critical if the shots are as bad as some of them have been, completely throwing away the wicket in a test without the bowler doing anything at all is painful) - Moeen throwing his wicket away in spectacular t20 mode fashion is becoming too common when set or not set.

I always felt gifting the last wicket like Anderson did was asking for trouble against a highly competitive team like India - they smelt blood I reckon. Though, you have to take chances at this level or you can get severely punished - especially but a top team like India. They was a lot of doom and gloom yesterday from Indian fans, but they are a world class team with a high ceiling - capable of hitting back with a big total and England still have to bat last. England are pretty much busted in this game unless something spectacular happens very quickly.

By the way - Moeen is obviously an all-rounder not a batsman, people do seem to forget that sometimes. Could do with him taking some wickets that being said.
 

Teja.

Global Moderator
91-0. What a great session for India. Haven't had many batting sessions like this in recent years.
 

Jack1

International Debutant
Hard to say what's possible last on this pitch and Root in England team, plus no Ashwin. I think India ought to be looking for a lead of 340+ from here.

That being said Root only averages 33.17 in the 4th innings and has never hit a hundred in 33 innings. There's a first for everything though, India will be wary considering his form.
 
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silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Well they will look for as much as they can get.

in terms of what’s enough, above 250 will start getting tough. I would say at a lead of 220-230, it’s 50/50. And you can go up and down from there.

I think if ashwin was there, anything above 200 would have been rough to chase in the fourth innings.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Nepotism runs deep in BCCI which is “controlled” by Shahs at this point. Ganguly is just a puppet IMO. Feels like Kohli has curried favor with men with real authority and in tern has been granted almost dictatorial power as a captain. Ashwin or anyone who would want to have a long term career will be very careful about not pissing anyone off.
ah jeez, not this conspiracy theory crap again. BCCI has always been "controlled" by politicos and every player ever who made it in India has sucked up to them. But please keep the political BS out of this thread. Your opinions mean didley squat on this.
 

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