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***Official*** 4th Test @ The Oval, London - 2nd-6th September

morgieb

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That was a horrible series quality-wise in general. It's not even as if Swann was what won England that series in the end, aside from those unbelievably bad collapses at Lord's which frankly had nothing to do with the pitch.
Yeah even winning that series comfortably I imagine England wouldn't have felt that great. Though o/c it didn't help that the glimmer of winning only lasted like two months.....
 

morgieb

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This definitely feels like a bowl first wicket. Root will probably cash in hard.
 

Spark

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Yeah even winning that series comfortably I imagine England wouldn't have felt that great. Though o/c it didn't help that the glimmer of winning only lasted like two months.....
Lots of arguments on here in the intervening months about whether that England side really was particularly good just because the scoreline was 3-0 iirc.

Those lasted about three days into Brisbane.
 

wpdavid

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That’s a really bad review, missing on height and width.
Yup. I've said it before, but Root needs to be careful with Robinson's reviews. That being said, there was one last time which he didn't review but should have done, but maybe that was the exception that proves the rule.
 

Burgey

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Yeah even winning that series comfortably I imagine England wouldn't have felt that great. Though o/c it didn't help that the glimmer of winning only lasted like two months.....
Wasn’t it the 09 series? The one where Stu Clark came in for the 4th test after being injured for ages, bowled hard to a win then the traditional english dust bowl was served up for the last match?
 

Spark

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Wasn’t it the 09 series? The one where Stu Clark came in for the 4th test after being injured for ages, bowled hard to a win then the traditional english dust bowl was served up for the last match?
2013 was the year were all the pitches were way, way drier and more crumbly than usual.
 

morgieb

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Wasn’t it the 09 series? The one where Stu Clark came in for the 4th test after being injured for ages, bowled hard to a win then the traditional english dust bowl was served up for the last match?
Nah I think the one that England delivered slow turners was 2013.
 

Burgey

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Good return by Woakes. What happened with Jimmy's first spell?
He bowled pretty average tbh. First over he was a bit short, never really looked in rhythm by his standards.

Then there was a glimmer of sun for a couple of overs which coincided with him going off. Not even taking the piss, it actually happened that way, albeit by coincidence
 

wpdavid

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Wasn’t it the 09 series? The one where Stu Clark came in for the 4th test after being injured for ages, bowled hard to a win then the traditional english dust bowl was served up for the last match?
It was odd because our quicker bowlers did most of the damage, certainly in your first innings. Didn't Aus go into the match without a full-time spinner despite how the pitch looked? Not the best choice.
 

morgieb

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Lots of arguments on here in the intervening months about whether that England side really was particularly good just because the scoreline was 3-0 iirc.

Those lasted about three days into Brisbane.
Yes a few of the more optimistic/one-eyed English posters said a few things that look......let's just say hilarious in hindsight.
 

Burgey

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Nah I think the one that England delivered slow turners was 2013.
It was odd because our quicker bowlers did most of the damage, certainly in your first innings. Didn't Aus go into the match without a full-time spinner despite how the pitch looked? Not the best choice.
Yeah I’m struggling now to recall which series it was tbh. There was one where the deck looked nothing like a typical Oval deck but I’ll happily take Morgie’s word for it that it was the latter series. That 09 series was the one where Flintoff ran out Ponting from mid off when he and Clarke were putting together a decent partnership
 

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