Cricket stuff that doesn't deserve its own thread

[mr_mister]

remove their ATG status

 

[ataraxia]

remove their ATG status

what do you mean, a strike rate of 2.6 is great

 

[TheJediBrah]

Nothing wrong with what they were doing, completely within the rules

 

[Lillian Thomson]

The Ray Lindwall graphic was just the clearest example I could find. It wasn't a points scoring exercise over scurrilous cheating Australians. Of course I'm aware that English (and other nationalities) bowlers were also culpable.

And incidentally a lot of the deliveries weren't within the rules. With the extent of the drag of some bowlers they were bowling a lot of no balls that it was impossible for the umpire to judge. That's why it was changed to the front foot rule.

 

[sunilz]

?

 

[TheJediBrah]

The Ray Lindwall graphic was just the clearest example I could find. It wasn't a points scoring exercise over scurrilous cheating Australians. Of course I'm aware that English (and other nationalities) bowlers were also culpable.

And incidentally a lot of the deliveries weren't within the rules. With the extent of the drag of some bowlers they were bowling a lot of no balls that it was impossible for the umpire to judge. That's why it was changed to the front foot rule.

Didn't use the 3rd umpire replays? idiots

 

[WICFan]

Ireland squads for the upcoming T/20 and ODI Series vs Zimbabwe:

T20I Squad: Andrew Balbirnie (Captain), Mark Adair, Curtis Campher, George Dockrell, Shane Getkate, Josh Little, Barry McCarthy, William McClintock, Kevin O’Brien, Neil Rock, Simi Singh, Paul Stirling, Harry Tector, Lorcan Tucker, Ben White, Craig Young.

ODI Squad: Andrew Balbirnie (Captain), Mark Adair, Curtis Campher, George Dockrell, Graham Kennedy, Josh Little, Andy McBrine, Barry McCarthy, William Porterfield, Neil Rock, Simi Singh, Paul Stirling, Harry Tector, Lorcan Tucker, Craig Young.

Zimbabwe squad: Brendan Taylor, Ryan Burl, Regis Chakabva, Tendai Chatara, Craig Ervine, Luke Jongwe, Tinashe Kamunhukamwe, Wessly Madhevere, Tadiwanashe Marumani, Wellington Masakadza, Tarisai Musakanda, Blessing Muzarabani, Dion Myers, Richard Ngarava, Sikandar Raza, Milton Shumba, Donald Tiripano, Sean Williams

 

[Hurricane2]

I want to have a rant about innings management
This is based on my playing career as a premier division.club cricketer ( in my twenties ), Gillette cup cricket in my teenage years and finally bullying has been bowlers past their use by date in division 3 in Wellington senior cricket when I got old and fat

this is long but it is just a post about cricket that doesn’t deserve its own thread per the thread title so no flames please

batting success is based on
1) athleticism. When you do push ups or work out with weights it becomes possible to concentrate on timing the ball to the boundary rather than having to give a full back lift and follow through to hit the ball to the boundary. When you are stronger you can generate sufficient power from a jab and then checking the shot. If you don’t work out and try a minimalist shot it will go for two runs at most even if you time it or middle it
I say or middle it as timing only really becomes a viable concept once the first scenario of working out applies rather than the latter
Secondly fitness allows for less concentration mistakes and extremely long innings of 2 hours plus to be played.
On tv test match players go for 6 hour innings. 2 to 3 hours is exhausting enough at club level.

2) the second thing that is required is a large array of attacking shots. You need probably ten plus shots you can play well. The more scoring options you have means the more often you can rotate the strike and if you can do that often enough you can get the bowler thinking about stopping you scoring rather than getting you out. This is critical. If any decent bowler in senior cricket comes to the conclusion you won’t score often against him he will turn his mind 100 percent to getting your wicket and he will always succeed within two or three overs. Bowiers are confidence creatures and they will grow to dangerous levels if you let them and produce unplayable deliveries if given license to express themselves by the batsman.

which brings me to the third element and the topic of this rant which is innings management

innings management becomes eminently more easy the better you are at the above two elements ie athleticism and array of shots
There is less pressure to make correct innings management decisions if you can score easily from a wide variety of deliveries and concentrate for longer periods of time than other blokes

innings management requires setting a target number of runs per over
But not living and dieing by it
If you make that number of runs great
If you fail then don’t try to make up for it next over even if you have three or four lean overs on the trot

one day matches and two day unlimited overs both require setting a target runs per over
And that is the essence of innings management

the second part of innings management is resisting the urge to accelerate the target rate once your eye is in or going slowly at the start while you wait to get your eye in.
innings management is something usually done by the top 4 batsman only. The rest of the lower middle order and tail should do as they are told by the senior top order batsman who is already at the crease when they walk out to bat.
innings management is done in the head of the senior top order batsman and he leads by example in the partnership and doesn’t discuss his target or strategy with the partner as that dude will either have his own seperate targets he will prefer or worse want to negotiate and give input into the tactics.
the supporting partner will learn the innings management plan you have just through your vibe organically and he will chip in as best he can.
The only communication necessary is once the tall from number 8 and below come out to join a top order top 4 batsman.
take charge once the tail walks out to bat. Tell them how they should bat.

back to my point about the rate. Don’t watt until you have been out there 45 minutes to switch between pure survival and “now I will score some runs”
Get off the mark then start scoring at the rate you have picked right away.
And then don’t accelerate even when you
the batsman can see “ the ball as big as a football and can hit everything for runs”
Innings management and scoring big scores is about how long you can be out there for scoring at your rate rather than how quickly you can score in a hurry. Commentators talk about grinding a team down. If you want you can think of it like that.
Just don’t accelerate keep batting. Same rate over after over. To score an 80 at a healthy 4 runs per over you will be out there for 49 overs of consistently managing your inning and the team inning and your shot selections to score at that rate over after over.

Some final points
Pick your rate based on obvious factors, how much they scored if a one day match, the pitch conditions , their attack, how good their fielders are, and also how deep your batting line up is should you get out
You develop most of those impressions as a number three or four bat while you are waiting to bat. Watch the bowling from the Sideline rather than chatting to the scorer about tv shows. Observe. From the sideline and how the openers are hopping around or not you will know if the bowler is swinging it and which way even though you are 100 metres away.
Then make your target run rate up after you have been out there perhaps one over two overs tops.
All top order batsman are ****y. If you don’t think you can take charge and set a target run rste and manage the teams innings from the start to two hundred runs later then don’t volunteer to be a top order batsman because innings management is your role.
It isn’t up to eleven batsman to score the team runs each Saturday. It us up to the top four batsmen each and every week.
Their job to score the runs. Your job to score the runs if you are a top four player.
Scores like 25 are nothing scores for a top four player. Two or three of the top four will get unlucky each week and the one that gets a start needs to carry on with it to fifty or 80. And when he is batting he is not batting for himself he is managing the entire innings for the whole team. And leading the batting effort.

Some final nuances
Each team I played had one and only one difficult bowler. There was always a spearhead or a king spinner. Be on the look out for their king pin bowler and once you identify him see him off with maidens. He won’t be able to pressure you if you score at the other end.

develop a technique and scoring pattern that will work against high class spin. In low grades you can wait for a pie. In premier grade there are simply no bad balls from the spinners at that level. Practice scoring along the ground against spinners in the nets. See if you can learn to play a scoring shot to every ball your teams spinner bowls to you in the nets. Not slogs but high class scoring options for ones and twos.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

 

[Victor Ian]

Who left?

 

[Starfighter]

Sean Williams to step away from international cricket

Remains open to the possibility of playing white-ball cricket for the country in the future

www.espncricinfo.com

 

[Shri]

I want to have a rant about innings management
This is based on my playing career as a premier division.club cricketer ( in my twenties ), Gillette cup cricket in my teenage years and finally bullying has been bowlers past their use by date in division 3 in Wellington senior cricket when I got old and fat

this is long but it is just a post about cricket that doesn’t deserve its own thread per the thread title so no flames please

batting success is based on
1) athleticism. When you do push ups or work out with weights it becomes possible to concentrate on timing the ball to the boundary rather than having to give a full back lift and follow through to hit the ball to the boundary. When you are stronger you can generate sufficient power from a jab and then checking the shot. If you don’t work out and try a minimalist shot it will go for two runs at most even if you time it or middle it
I say or middle it as timing only really becomes a viable concept once the first scenario of working out applies rather than the latter
Secondly fitness allows for less concentration mistakes and extremely long innings of 2 hours plus to be played.
On tv test match players go for 6 hour innings. 2 to 3 hours is exhausting enough at club level.

2) the second thing that is required is a large array of attacking shots. You need probably ten plus shots you can play well. The more scoring options you have means the more often you can rotate the strike and if you can do that often enough you can get the bowler thinking about stopping you scoring rather than getting you out. This is critical. If any decent bowler in senior cricket comes to the conclusion you won’t score often against him he will turn his mind 100 percent to getting your wicket and he will always succeed within two or three overs. Bowiers are confidence creatures and they will grow to dangerous levels if you let them and produce unplayable deliveries if given license to express themselves by the batsman.

which brings me to the third element and the topic of this rant which is innings management

innings management becomes eminently more easy the better you are at the above two elements ie athleticism and array of shots
There is less pressure to make correct innings management decisions if you can score easily from a wide variety of deliveries and concentrate for longer periods of time than other blokes

innings management requires setting a target number of runs per over
But not living and dieing by it
If you make that number of runs great
If you fail then don’t try to make up for it next over even if you have three or four lean overs on the trot

one day matches and two day unlimited overs both require setting a target runs per over
And that is the essence of innings management

the second part of innings management is resisting the urge to accelerate the target rate once your eye is in or going slowly at the start while you wait to get your eye in.
innings management is something usually done by the top 4 batsman only. The rest of the lower middle order and tail should do as they are told by the senior top order batsman who is already at the crease when they walk out to bat.
innings management is done in the head of the senior top order batsman and he leads by example in the partnership and doesn’t discuss his target or strategy with the partner as that dude will either have his own seperate targets he will prefer or worse want to negotiate and give input into the tactics.
the supporting partner will learn the innings management plan you have just through your vibe organically and he will chip in as best he can.
The only communication necessary is once the tall from number 8 and below come out to join a top order top 4 batsman.
take charge once the tail walks out to bat. Tell them how they should bat.

back to my point about the rate. Don’t watt until you have been out there 45 minutes to switch between pure survival and “now I will score some runs”
Get off the mark then start scoring at the rate you have picked right away.
And then don’t accelerate even when you
the batsman can see “ the ball as big as a football and can hit everything for runs”
Innings management and scoring big scores is about how long you can be out there for scoring at your rate rather than how quickly you can score in a hurry. Commentators talk about grinding a team down. If you want you can think of it like that.
Just don’t accelerate keep batting. Same rate over after over. To score an 80 at a healthy 4 runs per over you will be out there for 49 overs of consistently managing your inning and the team inning and your shot selections to score at that rate over after over.

Some final points
Pick your rate based on obvious factors, how much they scored if a one day match, the pitch conditions , their attack, how good their fielders are, and also how deep your batting line up is should you get out
You develop most of those impressions as a number three or four bat while you are waiting to bat. Watch the bowling from the Sideline rather than chatting to the scorer about tv shows. Observe. From the sideline and how the openers are hopping around or not you will know if the bowler is swinging it and which way even though you are 100 metres away.
Then make your target run rate up after you have been out there perhaps one over two overs tops.
All top order batsman are ****y. If you don’t think you can take charge and set a target run rste and manage the teams innings from the start to two hundred runs later then don’t volunteer to be a top order batsman because innings management is your role.
It isn’t up to eleven batsman to score the team runs each Saturday. It us up to the top four batsmen each and every week.
Their job to score the runs. Your job to score the runs if you are a top four player.
Scores like 25 are nothing scores for a top four player. Two or three of the top four will get unlucky each week and the one that gets a start needs to carry on with it to fifty or 80. And when he is batting he is not batting for himself he is managing the entire innings for the whole team. And leading the batting effort.

Some final nuances
Each team I played had one and only one difficult bowler. There was always a spearhead or a king spinner. Be on the look out for their king pin bowler and once you identify him see him off with maidens. He won’t be able to pressure you if you score at the other end.

develop a technique and scoring pattern that will work against high class spin. In low grades you can wait for a pie. In premier grade there are simply no bad balls from the spinners at that level. Practice scoring along the ground against spinners in the nets. See if you can learn to play a scoring shot to every ball your teams spinner bowls to you in the nets. Not slogs but high class scoring options for ones and twos.

how to get run out by your partner 101

 

[TheJediBrah]

Hurricane2 doesn't realise no one here actually plays cricket

 

[Daemon]

1.5 years since I last played. Covid robbed me of my prime in the sport.

 

[Victor Ian]

It is so weird that cricket is not the poster sport for covid times, with it's large fields and natural distancing. Perhaps if the umpires could supply a bucket of approved ball shining spit it still could be.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Bring your own afternoon tea was a bit if a low point out of last season's digressions from the usual

 

[Line and Length]

Bring your own afternoon tea was a bit if a low point out of last season's digressions from the usual

An interesting aspect of afternoon teas occurred with one of our lower grade sides. Maccabi CC (no longer in our Association) fielded a side in the same division as our 3rd XI. It was our Club's home game and half the lads brought ham sandwiches and there were two trays of sausage rolls. Visitors seemed to have little appetite for the spread.

 

[Flem274*]

I hope Fawad Alam both scores more tons and maintains his insane conversion rate.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

I was sifting through a load of old VHS tapes and came across an episode of the British soap Coronation Street from the mid 80’s. The Rovers Return (the pub) were having a pub quiz and one of the answers was Mohammad Azharuddin.

 

[honestbharani]

I was sifting through a load of old VHS tapes and came across an episode of the British soap Coronation Street from the mid 80’s. The Rovers Return (the pub) were having a pub quiz and one of the answers was Mohammad Azharuddin.

Must have been the year he made the 3 100s in a row on debut or whatever.