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*Official Third Test at Headingley* 25-29 August

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
They’ve consistently done well in SA. Draws in 2009-10 and 2015-16 against good Saf sides and a win last time out against a mediocre one.

India, Australia and NZ are the sides that belt England on tour.
We won in 15-16
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
If I may be pedantic, that win in the Caribbean was in the 60s too. We drew there in 1974. And I have long argued that the 2004 win is seriously underrated
I'd secretly think worse of you if you didn't, tbf.

Was 74 the overly-generous Sobers declaration or was that the earlier series?
 

neerajchopra

Cricket Spectator
places where eng have been really poor are pak and wi - just one win each in the last 50 years.

have been very good in sa - 3 wins and a couple of draws.

they have been ok in ind nz and australia tbh - maybe not in recent times or certain periods. but have multiple series wins over the years and a few draws. i mean there have been a few whitewashes and lots of losses but thats par for an away team. its not like pak/sl in australia or nz/sl in india level.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
He's never getting dropped, let's be realistic here
I understand not right now, but.....since the beginning of 2020, in 11 matches, he has averaged 23. 23! How many games do you tolerate your number #4 averaging 23 in Test cricket? 15 matches? 20? 30? Even someone with as much talent as Kohli.

And yes, Pujara and Rahane need to go first, and I think they will by the end of this series.
 

91Jmay

International Coach
I understand not right now, but.....since the beginning of 2020, in 11 matches, he has averaged 23. 23! How many games do you tolerate your number #4 averaging 23 in Test cricket? 15 matches? 20? 30? Even someone with as much talent as Kohli.

And yes, Pujara and Rahane need to go first, and I think they will by the end of this series.
Kohli will have a place in the India side until the day he dies
 

Teja.

Global Moderator
I understand not right now, but.....since the beginning of 2020, in 11 matches, he has averaged 23. 23! How many games do you tolerate your number #4 averaging 23 in Test cricket? 15 matches? 20? 30? Even someone with as much talent as Kohli.

And yes, Pujara and Rahane need to go first, and I think they will by the end of this series.
Ideally, he should be up for getting kicked out if he is still averaging in the 20s for the remaining 7-8 tests of the year.

Realistically, he has a lock on number 4 + captaincy till the 2023 WC at least.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
I understand not right now, but.....since the beginning of 2020, in 11 matches, he has averaged 23. 23! How many games do you tolerate your number #4 averaging 23 in Test cricket? 15 matches? 20? 30? Even someone with as much talent as Kohli.

And yes, Pujara and Rahane need to go first, and I think they will by the end of this series.
11 test matches is not enough evidence to be dropping batsmen with that kind of record. I agree its time to strip him of the captaincy but you guys are talking pure BS about him being dropped.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
I'd secretly think worse of you if you didn't, tbf.

Was 74 the overly-generous Sobers declaration or was that the earlier series?
The Sobers declaration was in1968. The 1974 draw came courtesy of Amiss' match saving 260 in one test and then us stealing the final test through Boycott' twin masterpieces and Greig's off breaks
 

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