***Official*** India vs England 2021 General Discussion thread

[Uppercut]

Australia in the 2000s would have had Hayden, Langer, Ponting, Waugh, Martyn, Lehmann, Gilchrist. I reckon at some point they'd have all been averaging over 45?

 

[OverratedSanity]

Gambhir and Sehwag were absolute gun together there for a little while both averaging over 50. Would have been during Gambhirs peak this brief period im talking about.

End of SA tour 2011:

Gambhir: 51
Sehwag: 53
Dravid: 53
Tendulkar: 57
VVS: 47

Even dhoni was above 40 at that stage. Only weakspot was number 6 which was a revolving door of Raina/Yuvraj.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Australia in the 2000s would have had Hayden, Langer, Ponting, Waugh, Martyn, Lehmann, Gilchrist. I reckon at some point they'd have all been averaging over 45?

This is a pretty crazy run

 

[Uppercut]

This is a pretty crazy run


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Those strike rates, oof.

 

[Spark]

It does feel like people have underrated/partially forgotten just how utterly broken peak Gilchrist was.

 

[DriveClub]

This is a pretty crazy run


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That's just illegal, don't think there's ever been a more dominant test batting line-up

 

[Furball]

I think England had a stretch like that under Flower. Even in purely statistical terms it’s always very unlikely.

I was going to argue this, but Collingwood was rubbish in Australia and England spent the next year or two failing to replace him at number 6. Didn't Cook also go into the 2010/11 Ashes in pretty poor form as well?

 

[Spark]

I was going to argue this, but Collingwood was rubbish in Australia and England spent the next year or two failing to replace him at number 6. Didn't Cook also go into the 2010/11 Ashes in pretty poor form as well?

He did until that final Test against Pakistan where he got an unbelievably jammy (IIRC) hundred which saved his spot.

 

[Uppercut]

I was going to argue this, but Collingwood was rubbish in Australia and England spent the next year or two failing to replace him at number 6. Didn't Cook also go into the 2010/11 Ashes in pretty poor form as well?

I was thinking they had played Prior at 6 at some stage but I might be misremembering.

 

[Furball]

He did until that final Test against Pakistan where he got an unbelievably jammy (IIRC) hundred which saved his spot.

I also feel like Strauss wasn't particularly great during that year from the start of the Ashes to the end of the India series.

 

[Spark]

I also feel like Strauss wasn't particularly great during that year from the start of the Ashes to the end of the India series.

Even his Ashes wasn't actually that great, but the century he did score was probably the most important of the tour.

 

[Furball]

I was thinking they had played Prior at 6 at some stage but I might be misremembering.

Ashes top 7 was

Strauss
Cook
Trott
Pietersen
Collingwood
Bell
Prior

Collingwood retired end of the Ashes, Morgan definitely played in the India series but I don't recall if he was blooded against Sri Lanka (although I seem to recall him failing in Bell's place in the Pakistan series in 2010 so he must have been the next cab off the rank.) Pretty sure Bopara came back for the later Tests as well after Trott got injured? Bell scoring 235 against India almost certainly came from number 3.

 

[Furball]

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Have you filtered that other than by date? Even the replacements (I'm assuming Martyn must have been injured at some point) absolutely gunned it.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Have you filtered that other than by date? Even the replacements (I'm assuming Martyn must have been injured at some point) absolutely gunned it.

I cut off Mark Waugh who averaged 32, but that's about it.

I think Martyn was actually dropped. @TheJediBrah to confirm.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Martyn wasn't dropped in that period, I know that much. Must have had an injury because he definitely missed the winter series v Bangladesh and West Indies in 2003 (hence Martin Love and Darren Lehmann). Seem to recall maybe a broken finger

edit: he had a broken finger in that 2003 WC final partnership with Ponting, so that was probably it

 

[GIMH]

I was thinking they had played Prior at 6 at some stage but I might be misremembering.

He did in 09, Flintoff at 7

 

[cnerd123]

got a good feeling this is going to be an ATG series.

Got a feeling now this could be a 3-0 or 4-0 sweep for India

England need to uncover someone who can score runs asap

 

[silentstriker]

Can anyone figure out if there has been an instance when the second highest rated bowler in the world is fit and available but not picked in a side, like what is happening to Ashwin?

 

[honestbharani]

Its stupid that the best spinner in the world has to sit out but after yesterday, I dont see Virat seeing sense and picking Ash even if conditions demand it.

 

[Shri]

Lord's Test: You go after one of us, all 11 will come right back - KL Rahul on Indian players sledging England

Tensions between the two teams reached a tipping point on the final day as India bullied England to register victory by 151 runs and take a 1-0 lead in the 5-match Test series on Monday.

www.indiatoday.in

yikes