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*Official* First Test at Trent Bridge, Nottingham - Aug 4-8 - 2021

Nintendo

Nintendo

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Manee said:
Quality of batting seems lower though, even though the bowling quality is fairly high.
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He's also gotten to 1000 against india both home and away, and he'de have to average 50+ for the remainder of the year, against a very good indian lineup and australia in australia, who starc's form aside are a great attack. If he pulls it off there's definitely an argument to be made.
 
Manee

Manee

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Nintendo said:
He's also gotten to 1000 against india both home and away, and he'de have to average 50+ for the remainder of the year, against a very good indian lineup and australia in australia, who starc's form aside are a great attack. If he pulls it off there's definitely an argument to be made.
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Yes - he's a definite fantastic batsman. What he's great at is the positivity to get through the nervy early period of the innings and then once he's in, he's obviously extremely solid. I just disagree that it is harder to score runs in this era but rather that batsmen are typically worse at it.
 
Spark

Spark

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Manee said:
Yes - he's a definite fantastic batsman. What he's great at is the positivity to get through the nervy early period of the innings and then once he's in, he's obviously extremely solid. I just disagree that it is harder to score runs in this era but rather that batsmen are typically worse at it.
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Isn't this totally unfalsfiable and could be used to arbitrarily discredit any cricketer from any era for any reason? "The bowling wasn't that good, the batting was just ****/the batting wasn't that good, the bowling was just ****"
 
Zinzan

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Ah, great shame to see the last day wash-out. Had it 65/35 in India's favour.

Good to see Root finally fulfilling his Test potential. His hands look great since he's stolen Williamson's bat-twirl in his set-up so he's not gripping the bat too hard.
 
Manee

Manee

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Spark said:
Isn't this totally unfalsfiable and could be used to arbitrarily discredit any cricketer from any era for any reason? "The bowling wasn't that good, the batting was just ****/the batting wasn't that good, the bowling was just ****"
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It could, if applied recklessly. Being able to disprove something is important for science but cricket is not a science, whatever statsguru advocates would have you believe.
 
Manee

Manee

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Uppercut said:
Batting is very obviously much harder than it used to be.
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It is not harder than the 1990s but perhaps harder than in Michael Clarke's era - only perhaps though, not "obviously". Techniques these days are not great for Test cricket. Batsmen are scoring less runs partially because they're jumping between formats. A prime Sir Alistair Cook would have had a more comfortable time against even this India attack because of his exceptional shot selection.
 
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Maybe batsmen have got worse too but I think that’s harder to nail down evidence of. Batting has sooo obviously gotten harder though. The very idea of seam movement used to feel like an elusive myth of bygone days.
 
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Apparantly it was bright sunshine around 4.30pm yesterday in nottingham according to micheal vaughn, and game was called off to soon and they could have got in at least 20 overs.
 
Manee

Manee

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Uppercut said:
Maybe batsmen have got worse too but I think that’s harder to nail down evidence of. Batting has sooo obviously gotten harder though. The very idea of seam movement used to feel like an elusive myth of bygone days.
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Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Particularly when there is a narrow view of what constitutes evidence (i.e. raw numbers).

What do you mean about seam movement? I don't understand the sentence.
 
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