Jacques Kallis vs Rahul Dravid vs Kumar Sangakkara

[ankitj]

Also, Sangakkara cheated at the toss in the WC final after shastri ****ed things up ffs. Much worse than the no ball. If we had lost, SL's bus wouldve been shot at in India as well.

Too soon?

Apparently he said heads + tails together at the toss. Something like hails. Remember hearing about this in one of the cricket talk shows.

 

[Uppercut]

Gotta respect a guy who manages to cheat at a coin toss. It must take years of practice to perfect a noise that you can claim was either ‘heads’ or ‘tails’. Then to have the patience to save the move for the World Cup final, and the stones to try it against India in Mumbai. If that rumour is true then disregard everything else I said, Sanga>all.

 

[Uppercut]

Now I’m sitting here going ‘heauls’, ‘thealds’, ‘teads’, my wife is very concerned.

 

[Kirkut]

Sanga and Kallis were bigger run machines than Dravid, also both were superior players of spin as discussed here.

But Dravid's batting in the UK is a template. Especially how he handled Broad at his prime, masterclass stuff.

 

[Kirkut]

There is no way Ponting > Lara.

Only in ODIs. Those of us who followed cricket in the 2000s (and before T20s took away all fun from scoring boundaries) clearly remember his ability to single handedly win big games. Closest to Viv Richards when on song.

 

[Burner]

I've always loved watching Sangakkara bat. His enlightened dalai lama schtick on the commentary notwithstanding, he was always a colourful player to watch. He was a mediocre ODI batsman though. Probably just as boring as the other two and his late year surge probably makes him look a much better player than he was.

 

[Kirkut]

Dravid didn't play much against Ajmal. Kallis struggled. Sanga nailed him. Other important bowler is Swann. Dravid did best against him.

Swann rates Kallis as the toughest batsman he's bowled to in his interview with ESPN.

Yes, Sanga clearly handled Ajmal perfectly. What I like about him is that he's relatively multi dimensional when playing spin bowling, i.e. ability to attack and grind down quality spinners as opposed to most great players of spin who do the attack part best but cannot grind them down.

 

[honestbharani]

Only in ODIs. Those of us who followed cricket in the 2000s (and before T20s took away all fun from scoring boundaries) clearly remember his ability to single handedly win big games. Closest to Viv Richards when on song.

I might agree but Lara was an ODI gun and dominated ODIs till 1996 in a way very few others had till then. Overall, I might agree that Ponting > Lara in ODIs though, but then again, the unstated rule of CW is that its tests, unless otherwise specified.

 

[Gob]

Swann rates Kallis as the toughest batsman he's bowled to in his interview with ESPN.

Yes, Sanga clearly handled Ajmal perfectly. What I like about him is that he's relatively multi dimensional when playing spin bowling, i.e. ability to attack and grind down quality spinners as opposed to most great players of spin who do the attack part best but cannot grind them down.

Kallis bombs spinners mate. Bloke has a ridiculous number of sixes for a guy who batted at snail pace for most of his career and those sixes did not come against the quicks

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Only in ODIs. Those of us who followed cricket in the 2000s (and before T20s took away all fun from scoring boundaries) clearly remember his ability to single handedly win big games. Closest to Viv Richards when on song.

Lara > Ponting in ODIs

Also,
Top Order Lara is in the league of Sachin, Viv, ABdV and Kohli.

 

[Gob]

Lara > Ponting in ODIs

Also,
Top Order Lara is in the league of Sachin, Viv, ABdV and Kohli.

Nah Ponting is way better

Well was

 

[TheJediBrah]

Gotta respect a guy who manages to cheat at a coin toss. It must take years of practice to perfect a noise that you can claim was either ‘heads’ or ‘tails’. Then to have the patience to save the move for the World Cup final, and the stones to try it against India in Mumbai. If that rumour is true then disregard everything else I said, Sanga>all.

Ganguly did it way better

 

[OverratedSanity]

Ganguly was at his shithousing best in 2001. Tried to cheat at the toss in the ODIs and was always late to the toss in the tests. All just to make Waugh mad and it worked.

 

[CricAddict]

Now I’m sitting here going ‘heauls’, ‘thealds’, ‘teads’, my wife is very concerned.

I was doing the same after reading that post.

 

[Coronis]

Jayawardene averaged 34 outside Asia and 56 in Asia.

Younis averaged 42 outside Asia and 58 in Asia.

Dravid averaged 54 outside Asia and 51 in Asia.

Like I said, Dravid was an absurdly consistent player across conditions.

Unsure how relevant this is for Kallis in particular, but Sanga averaged 61 in Asia and 47 outside Asia, whilst Kallis averaged 55 in Asia and 55 outside Asia.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Ganguly was at his ****housing best in 2001. Tried to cheat at the toss in the ODIs and was always late to the toss in the tests. All just to make Waugh mad and it worked.

Nah he was just trying to cheat tbh

same reason he tried to claim a catch in the 2003 final that bounced a foot in front of him

 

[ankitj]

Apparently he said heads + tails together at the toss. Something like hails. Remember hearing about this in one of the cricket talk shows.

At 10:40. It's in Hindi but you can make out the key part.

 

[Migara]

Kallis bombs spinners mate. Bloke has a ridiculous number of sixes for a guy who batted at snail pace for most of his career and those sixes did not come against the quicks

Kallis was shitting in pants against Murali. Absolute domination was on the cards. Even Herath did very well against him. Kallis must have handled Kumble and Warne well to earn the reputation.

 

[ankitj]

Kallis bombs spinners mate. Bloke has a ridiculous number of sixes for a guy who batted at snail pace for most of his career and those sixes did not come against the quicks

Yeah I remember checking (although at the time when Kallis was just half way through his career). Kallis had better rate of sixes per innings than most attacking players, including Tendulkar.

 

[harsh.ag]

Yeah, Dravid and Kallis struggled against Murali but Sanga can't get points for that since he didn't play against Murali. With other spinners, their records are very close on balance.