Fuller Pilch
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Top 4
4. Barnes
3. Marshall
2. Hadlee
1. Jamieson
4. Barnes
3. Marshall
2. Hadlee
1. Jamieson
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Top 10 Greatest Fast Bowlers of All Time in Tests?
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Coronis
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More devastating than Wasim’s peak of his peak of his peak?
Slifer
International Captain
Actually, Marshall's average is 20.94 not 20.97...
subshakerz
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Yes, but as pointed out, largely against weaker sides and mostly with the old ball.
TheJediBrah
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Agree with this x1000. He was a great bowler but so overrated by this forum
nightprowler10
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Lol what. Most people rank him pretty low here with very few exceptions.
TheJediBrah
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May be confirmation bias but I recall seeing him in the top 4 or 5 on nearly everyone's lists
Pap Finn Keighl
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He is the most underrated cricketer in CW.
Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
Akram is Viv of bowling
When he gets his average lower and stops picking on tailenders I might consider him. Until then no.
subshakerz
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Let's see...Brian Lara, Allan Donald, McGrath, Ambrose, Darren Lehman, Michael Atherton, Justin Langer, Kumara Sangakara, Kallis, Jimmy Adams, Ponting, Azharuddin and many others all considered Wasim the best pacer they faced. Are they also overrating him?
Yes, statistically overall he doesnt match up to the top tier which is why it is fair to put him a bit behind, but he definitely in my view belongs in the top 10.
nightprowler10
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When I first starting posting here, there were people comparing him to Gillespie. It's gotten much much better over the years.
Magrat Garlick
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mind at least a decade ago we were voting him top-25 cricketers of all time
Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
So that you can rate bowlers with shorter career (with better fielding support ) higher.
Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
Ambrose played 13 years
98 tests, 179 innings,
405 wkts, 20.99 avg
54.58 SR, 20 x 5wkts , 3 x 10 wkts
First 13 years of Akram
77 tests, 134 innings, 334 wkts, 22.34 avg
51.9 SR, 21 x 5 wkts, 4 x 10 wkts
Akram Stats adjusted to 179 innings
446 wickets, 22.34 avg,
51.9 SR, 28 x 5wkts, 5 x 10wkts
LBW + Bowled
Ambrose - 33.3%
Akram - 53.9%
98 tests, 179 innings,
405 wkts, 20.99 avg
54.58 SR, 20 x 5wkts , 3 x 10 wkts
First 13 years of Akram
77 tests, 134 innings, 334 wkts, 22.34 avg
51.9 SR, 21 x 5 wkts, 4 x 10 wkts
Akram Stats adjusted to 179 innings
446 wickets, 22.34 avg,
51.9 SR, 28 x 5wkts, 5 x 10wkts
LBW + Bowled
Ambrose - 33.3%
Akram - 53.9%
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Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
Thats a myth.
He played longer than most. Otherwise his numbers are similar to the very top bowlers, and he managed to achive that without a proper fielding support.
Slifer
International Captain
Now post Akram's stats without cherry picking
Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
You mean Ambrose peak 13 years vs Akram's Whole career?
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
if we are going down this road, there is also the famous Pak home umpiring that gave his LBW counts a double booster shot.