*Official* 3rd Test at the Sardar Patel Sports Complex, Ahmedabad, 24 - 28 Feb 2021

[GIMH]

Indian cricket should just be deleted after that disgusting pitch. I mean 2 days? Joe root taking 5-8? Non stop spin bowling all day, 17 wickets in not even 1 days play. If I wanted to watch that much spin I wouldve stared at my washing machine all day. The ICC should rate the pitch ‘a disgrace’ to be perfectly honest. Hang your head in shame BCCI.

well said, I think Daemon and OS should be banned from CW in response

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

600 v 600 draw pitch leading to Indian series win? Sounds about right.

Root would need to equal Lara.

 

[ankitj]

We just won a heroic series in Aus which earned us praise worldwide and many neutrals also started supporting us.

Series win like this turn lot of neutral fans away and doesn't befit a no.1 side.

Dude since when you started caring about this? Pitch was bad, ok. But Indian team still played better cricket on this pitch. If someone hates Indian team for winning a game fair and square, **** them.

 

[Spark]

There was a perfectly good reason for that. The balls that were not turning sharply were being darted into the pitch at ~95kmh, while the balls that were gripping and spitting were coming in at ~85kmh. All the spinners to some extent took advantage of that, most of all Axar with his natural speed being ~100kmh. There were no shooters and very rarely did any ball rear up from length.

The pitch wasn't perfect especially with the bowlers foothole but it wasn't a dustbowl. Swann at the start of the match showed the state of the ball after 15 overs and the seam had somehow become even more pronounced than it was anew and had naturally become softer making it perfect for gripping the surface. Root maybe a part-timer but his seam presentation was perfect. No wobble and nearly every ball landed on the seam. That combined with no great players of spin on either side is what produced this result.

Yeah I know the commentators claimed it but Ashwin was actually bowling faster than Axar, who was very consistently in that high 87-90km/h range. That entire line of commentating felt like trying to manufacture a reason rather than looking at the actual information they had on hand, which clearly suggested that Ashwin was bowling faster than Axar, objectively, even as they were claiming the opposite. As far as I could tell there was no actual relation whatsoever between the pace of the ball being bowled and what the ball actually did upon pitching, based on the actual speeds measured.

 

[OverratedSanity]

well said, I think Daemon and OS should be banned from CW in response

Oh don't get me wrong its definitely a "bad" pitch and would have no problem with ICC rating it poor . I just think it's funny to have one shock the system from time to time and put the pampered batsmen in their place.

 

[Kilowatt]

Yeah I know the commentators claimed it but Ashwin was actually bowling faster than Axar, who was very consistently in that high 87-90km/h range. That entire line of commentating felt like trying to manufacture a reason rather than looking at the actual information they had on hand, which clearly suggested that Ashwin was bowling faster than Axar, objectively, even as they were claiming the opposite. As far as I could tell there was no actual relation whatsoever between the pace of the ball being bowled and what the ball actually did upon pitching, based on the actual speeds measured.

We probably watched a different match then. Axar was consistently bowling above 90kmh and every ball in the 80's spun without fail. No way was Ashwin bowling faster than Axar.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Imagine if we do get 4-5 of these in a row some day. Root might have a 30 wicket series. And people don't want this to happen for some reason

 

[Spark]

We probably watched a different match then. Axar was consistently bowling above 90kmh and every ball in the 80's spun without fail. No way was Ashwin bowling faster than Axar.

I mean they literally put up a graph showing the proportion of balls bowled >90km/h, and Ashwin's was significantly higher.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

^Pretty clearly the determining factor in this Test.

 

[Shri]

yeah spark

axar was darting at 98 kmph constantly in one over at least

ash was in the mid 80s - late 80s/early 90s

 

[Spark]

Oh don't get me wrong its definitely a "bad" pitch and would have no problem with ICC rating it poor . I just think it's funny to have one shock the system from time to time and put the pampered batsmen in their place.

Batsmen haven't really been "pampered" in a while now though. It's a good meme but Test cricket has been bowler-friendly for at least five years now, even Australia has stopped rolling out the awful no-good roads quite as often.

 

[Shri]

i'll be surprised if anderson bowl another over in this test match, let alone archer

i got this right

 

[Shri]

Batsmen haven't really been "pampered" in a while now though. It's a good meme but Test cricket has been bowler-friendly for at least five years now, even Australia has stopped rolling out the awful no-good roads quite as often.

awesome

now imagine if we take umpires call out of drs completely

no more batters with an avg above 50

 

[sunilz]

Dude since when you started caring about this? Pitch was bad, ok. But Indian team still played better cricket on this pitch. If someone hates Indian team for winning a game fair and square, **** them.

I personally hate extreme dustbowls because I feel wickets like these at home were the main reason India didn't win a single match outside Asia in 90s.

Don't get me wrong. I also don't like some of these SENA wickets which absolutely favour only 1 type of bowling and match finishes in 3 days.

 

[Daemon]

Such a shame this ended early. Would've liked to see lower mantle of the earth's crust become visible on Day 5.

 

[Kilowatt]

I mean they literally put up a graph showing the proportion of balls bowled >90km/h, and Ashwin's was significantly higher.

Then you are probably right.
I only watched about 20 overs of the start of play yesterday and 10 overs of England's innings today and missed the graph. Its possible Ashwin started bowling faster. But of what I saw, I'm willing to stand by my observations about the nature of the turn corelating with the pace (and obviously flight) and the fact that Axar was largely bowling above 90k's while Ashwin was in the 85-90k range in that time.

 

[mellers]

That combined with no great players of spin on either side is what produced this result.

What produced this result was the dire pitch.
If this is the sort of cricket that the Indian population wants to see from Test matches then the days of Test cricket are over. All that is left is T20.

 

[Window]

Yeah I know the commentators claimed it but Ashwin was actually bowling faster than Axar, who was very consistently in that high 87-90km/h range. That entire line of commentating felt like trying to manufacture a reason rather than looking at the actual information they had on hand, which clearly suggested that Ashwin was bowling faster than Axar, objectively, even as they were claiming the opposite. As far as I could tell there was no actual relation whatsoever between the pace of the ball being bowled and what the ball actually did upon pitching, based on the actual speeds measured.

Yep, Ashwin was generally faster than Axar.

 

[Shri]

I personally hate extreme dustbowls because I feel wickets like these at home were the main reason India didn't win a single match outside Asia in 90s.

Don't get me wrong. I also don't like some of these SENA wickets which absolutely favour only 1 type of bowling and match finishes in 3 days.

it was not because of these pitches

it was because we had only one pace bowler who could bowl at over 145 kmph and the rest bowled in the 120s

 

[Senile Sentry]

Yeah Mods , please keep it as it is Sardar enclave.