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4th Test at the Gabba, Brisbane, 15 - 19 Jan 2021

Senile Sentry

International Debutant
This is rubbish and clearly over thinking. Rahane would have given him even if Aus had won the test.
Someone is watching too much Game of Thrones.
Yeah I love the schadenfreude by the Poms amidst all this. And I think its clearly lacl of understanding of cultural differences.

India did the same when they best Afghanistan in their first ever test by sharing the podium and presenting such a memento. I dont think like thst gesture this too had any subterfuge element in it.
 

sunilz

International Regular
It really is a miracle victory when you know these set of 11 players will never together again for India .Like 1983 WC victory this test victory is also astonishing .
 

quincywagstaff

International Debutant
This series just underlined that in home conditions Warner is a more pivotal bat than Smith.

It's not just his record in Australia that's so good but the aggressive manner he scores his runs. As am opener he sets the tone for the innings and with him missing or half-fit that missing element just set the tone for Australia's struggles this series.
 

Smudge49

U19 12th Man
This series just underlined that in home conditions Warner is a more pivotal bat than Smith.

It's not just his record in Australia that's so good but the aggressive manner he scores his runs. As am opener he sets the tone for the innings and with him missing or half-fit that missing element just set the tone for Australia's struggles this series.
Batting woes aside, Aus flunked both at Sydney and Brisbane due to inability to take wickets on day 5. Put Headingley test into the mix and there is a bit of a pattern starting to develop there.

In a weird sort of a way, last summer Yasir Shah scoring a hundred against this attack, that alone should have rung some alarm bells for things to come.
 

quincywagstaff

International Debutant
Batting woes aside, Aus flunked both at Sydney and Brisbane due to inability to take wickets on day 5. Put Headingley test into the mix and there is a bit of a pattern starting to develop there.
They avoided that problem last summer by ensuring none of the Tests reached a 5th day!

On a broader level, I think it's been the case for decades that Australia are great front runners in that when they're ahead in a series they very rarely give up the advantage. But when a side matches them they have a tendency to wilt in the pivotal match.

I think this has been a consistent feature for a long time. In recent memory of 3 Tests or longer series where the series was level or Oz were down a Test, the time I can recall Australia winning the deciding match was South Africa in 2014 (before that West Indies in 1999).
 

Smudge49

U19 12th Man
They avoided that problem last summer by ensuring none of the Tests reached a 5th day!

On a broader level, I think it's been the case for decades that Australia are great front runners in that when they're ahead in a series they very rarely give up the advantage. But when a side matches them they have a tendency to wilt in the pivotal match.

I think this has been a consistent feature for a long time. In recent memory of 3 Tests or longer series where the series was level or Oz were down a Test, the time I can recall Australia winning the deciding match was South Africa in 2014 (before that West Indies in 1999).
Just to be clear, I am not pointing at Australia wilting as a side, when the opposition raises the bar of their game.

The problem is when members of this Australian bowling squad self-proclaim to be the best attack in the world, then they should back that claim.

In this series, first two tests had pitches that were bowler friendly and Australian bowlers were bowling Indians out with ease there, but Indian attack broke that strategic option at the G by rolling Aus under 200 in both gigs.

To compensate for that, Sydney and Brisbane had slightly better batting decks that kept getting more docile as the game progressed, in those situations hitting the batsmen and rattling him to throw his wicket seemed like the only way, Australian bowlers were going to get anybody out, which is an equally worrying trend as the wobbly batting.
 

centurymaker

Cricketer Of The Year
The Indian batting was not too far off from the strongest line up.

Rohit
Agarwal/Gill
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Pant
Jadeja
Ashwin

Instead we had

Rohit
Gill
Pujara
Rahane
Agarwal
Pant
Sundar

Main difference is lack of Kohli, and Sundar and Thakur replacing Jadeja and Ashwin, (both of whom are proven batsmen in times of need). But Sundar really filled in well.

So if India had their full line up, result could have only been better. Would have had to chase SMALLER totals to start with!! Jadeja would not have missed 1.5 Tests.

So I believe if Indian batsmen were not so injured in sydney and say had Jadeja not dislocated his thumb, they may have gone for the target there as well. Ashwin and Vihari knew they had no one left behind them with Jadeja injured and that they too were batting with limitations hence they opted to play for draw. If even Jadeja was still available, team would have at least given it a go at the end. And if India had won that, could have easily shut up shop in Brisbane instead and drawn it to secure 2-1 win.

And the only time team failed was in 1st Test with Pink Ball. Otherwise, looked competitive throughout.
 
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Chrish

International Debutant
Green might be an important find for Australia.. I don’t want to overhype players but there seems a lot of potential. His batting alone would justify his place in current squad, even neglecting ability of bowling 140k and top-notch fielding.

May he serve Australia for long years..
 

Victor Ian

International Coach
I'd like to believe giving the shirt to Lyon was shithousery, but only because I think it is also a perfect example of how to get under the skin of your opponents. No need for swearing and acting tough.
 

Smudge49

U19 12th Man
There has not been a single worthwhile or valuable opinion or comment on this series from anyone from England. None in the the cricketing media, none on this forum, absolutely nothing.
Hasn't that always been the case? You haven't arrived either as a player or a team unless you trounce the English. Steve Smith was a hack for them till he started scoring massive runs against them, from then on he was next only to Bradman.
 

GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
Hasn't that always been the case? You haven't arrived either as a player or a team unless you trounce the English. Steve Smith was a hack for them till he started scoring massive runs against them, from then on he was next only to Bradman.
They still think they are the centre of the cricketing universe, but that just simply isn't the case

COVID, maybe. Cricket, nope
 

Senile Sentry

International Debutant
Green might be an important find for Australia.. I don’t want to overhype players but there seems a lot of potential. His batting alone would justify his place in current squad, even neglecting ability of bowling 140k and top-notch fielding.

May he serve Australia for long years..
What I liked was his patience at the crease. He will get those big daddy 100s once set.

I think he needs to bat up a bit the order. At 5 maybe. And yes good as a batsman alone.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
What I liked was his patience at the crease. He will get those big daddy 100s once set.

I think he needs to bat up a bit the order. At 5 maybe. And yes good as a batsman alone.
Needs some A tours IMO. He will learn more about playing spin and playing in different tempos for different sessions etc. if he can get in a proper A team season with 2 or 3 tours and a home series or two.
 

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