4th Test at the Gabba, Brisbane, 15 - 19 Jan 2021

[anil1405]

Surely leading IPL teams can't ve benchmark of Aussie test captaincy credentials?

Which is why I clearly specified a different format. And was talking about his leadership credentials in general.

Warner at 34 and most importantly post sandpapergate has ruled himself out of any leadership position in Aus.

I am not advocating for Warner to be made the test skipper. Just highlighting how his leadership credentials go up a notch under a different culture and setup.

Also he genuinely might have changed after the ban and introspection, plus age - which reflects in him being much calmer in IPL.

He has been a different player (and a person too on the field) when it comes to IPL much before the sandpaper incident. The way he has been leading SRH hasn't changed because of that incident. It's been the same since his early SRH days.

 

[Smudge49]

Hmm I missed that. I know he regretted coming back, but I'd always understood/heard that he'd felt obligated to do so because he was still captain, not because they basically gave him an ultimatum.

I completely agree that he was done by then, though. A shell of a player after that aside from two very emotion-driven innings.

He had the desire to play on though, but Cricket Australia drove him to play when he was neither fit physically or mentally which had further ramifications on him as a player and leader. In most other working environments that will be seen as workplace harassment but in professional sports such things get brushed aside.

CA basically stood by and did nothing when Warner and his wife were smeared by South African crowd and players alike, which lead to the crazy Sandpaper mess.

So in a nutshell Cricket Australia has never been too good to authoritative figures within the team, so Paine is kind of a god send for them.

 

[duffer]

Warner would make a great captain but has unfortunately roughed himself out of contention.

*fetching coat as we speak

 

[Senile Sentry]

CA basically stood by and did nothing when Warner and his wife were smeared by South African crowd and players alike, which lead to the crazy Sandpaper mess.

Surely this is a joke ?

 

[Chrish]

Speaking of Clarke, why is he no longer in comms? He may not be for everyone but I kinda liked his style..

 

[duffer]

Speaking of Clarke, why is he no longer in comms? He may not be for everyone but I kinda liked his style..

Came off as an asshole? He's Sanjay lite.

 

[honestbharani]

He has been a different player (and a person too on the field) when it comes to IPL much before the sandpaper incident. The way he has been leading SRH hasn't changed because of that incident. It's been the same since his early SRH days.

It could be VVS Niceman effect, tbh.

 

[sunilz]

I know one shouldn't be greedy but in hindsight could we have won the 3rd test in Sydney if we had a fresh non injured batsman in place of Vihari ?

 

[Arachnodouche]

Think he's turned a corner for real after Cape Town. Stoic isn't a word you'd normally associate with Warner but he certainly appears to be at a different stage in life.

 

[Smudge49]

Surely this is a joke ?

I thought this was pretty much common knowledge

 

[Shri]

I know one shouldn't be greedy but in hindsight could we have won the 3rd test in Sydney if we had a fresh non injured batsman in place of Vihari ?

yes

the pitch was a road suited to our batsmen that had slow turn and no bounce

we would have walked it easily if vihari could run

or if we had sundar or thakur playing

 

[Smudge49]

I know one shouldn't be greedy but in hindsight could we have won the 3rd test in Sydney if we had a fresh non injured batsman in place of Vihari ?

If Paine capitalized on the chances that Pant gave him at both Sydney and Brisbane, Aus could have won both those tests.

 

[sunilz]

If Paine capitalized on the chances that Pant gave him at both Sydney and Brisbane, Aus could have won both those tests.

This too was a possibility if Aus had got Pant Early. Not denying

This was a closely fought series. In an alternate Universe (Fringe) Aus are the winners of B-G Trophy

 

[Arachnodouche]

Think India were consistently the better side over the first two Tests. From Sydney onwards they were always playing catch-up, which is understandable considering their depleted resources. In the full context of the series, the general thinking (conscious or not) appears to have been to remain within touching distance of Aus at all times so that the one stand of defiance or genius really paid off. As close to a rope-a-dope strategy as I've ever seen in cricket, just brilliant.

 

[Senile Sentry]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1351556265558867969

A very interesting train of thoughts there. This person equates India s gesture to classy shithoussery.

 

[Senile Sentry]

 

[sunilz]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1351556265558867969

A very interesting train of thoughts there. This person equates India s gesture to classy ****houssery.

This is rubbish and clearly over thinking. Rahane would have given him even if Aus had won the test.
Someone is watching too much Game of Thrones.

 

[Manee]

I said to my mate that it was like Flintoff giving Brett Lee a cricket shirt with a painted version of his hand-print on the shoulder.

EDIT: Whether intentional or not. Most likely a nice gesture.

 

[Smudge49]

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Just some random idiotic Pom whose salty, that Jimmy Anderson won't get no signed t-shirt ever from the Indians.

 

[Shri]

Just some random idiotic Pom whose salty, that Jimmy Anderson won't get no signed t-shirt ever from the Indians.