Steyn has the record to be able to say he’s GOAT doesn’t he. Allan Donald’s record is also unbelievable and over looked.
I still struggle to put him over McGrath personally. But I don't begrudge anyone who makes that choice, and honestly it's something I haven't spent a lot of time thinking about. They're definitely in that very very top tier; the differences between them are less interesting to me than that fact in itself.
Thing with Cummo is that he doesn't do 'okay you bois sit back imma run through this shits to get a day off tommo' as often as Dale
He sure is but I believe Cummins alone is even more attractive and dale is bringing it down a touch
I would rate Ambrose, Akram and Lillee over Pollock or even Waqar. The rest i agree with.
He's better than Mcgrath and Ambrose. He career coincided with the most batting friendly era since WW2 and still he was head and shoulders above his contempories. If Ambrose and Mcgrath bowled in Steyn's era their average would be worse than him.
Quite possibly true, but not if they got to play half their games in South Africa. If you subbed Steyn out with McGrath or Ambrose in all the games Steyn actually played I'm confident they'd average less.
Yeah, the harder/easier era argument doesn’t really apply as much to guys like Steyn and Kallis.
Doubt it. They don't have the pace or skiddines to actually utilize the SA condition. And the argument that Steyn being a HTB is stupid because he averaged lower in India. Mcgrath and Ambrose averaged more in SA than their home countries or career averages.
Steyn was a better and way more complete bowler than Mcgrath.
The only guy I could see joining those 4 in that top tier might be Wasim as a wild card, hard to compare him with so many confounding factors.
