2020/21 New Zealand Domestic Season

[nzfan]

Donway warming up nicely for the NZ A... boy does he score runs in heaps. Just one more game or two and can't wait to see him play for black caps. Bracewell approaching a hundy as well, can't remember when he last scored a hundred. Must have been few years. I don't think he has got one for Firebirds.

 

[straw man]

Congrats K McClure on a big hundred opening.

Looks like the pitches are turning for the roady at just the time we've started complaining about how green they've been this season.

 

[straw man]

Think Kippax is being way too hard on Allen - not to say someone (i.e. his coach) shouldn't be blunt in telling him what's going to work and what's not, but could probably do without random internet strangers writing him off when he's 21. Looks more like a limited overs player.

If he gets to mid-late 20s and is still averaging 30 as a specialist batsmen then that's another story. Speaking of which...

LOL at Robbie O'Donnells dismissal, thats 50 caps and a captaincy deep

Just an embarrassingly bad shot. From the cushiest position of 6 in the batting order too.

 

[straw man]

I hope we are not slowly going back back to where we were in the late 90’s to mid 00’s - FC cricket utterly dominated by greentops, any half-decent line and length merchant likely to succeed, batsmen simply not developing a backfoot game, selection for the national side becoming a lottery etc. I suppose there’s usually a big difference in the early vs late season pitches so performances should be judged accordingly, but I sense a lot more scepticism when I browse domestic threads these days compared with the optimism of 6-7 years ago.

Checking back, it was the 18/19 season when medium pace really dominated the whole season for the first time in many years, a little reminiscent of the bad old days dominated by very medium nibblers. Sodhi ended up topping the wicket chart with a late season surge, but there were 7 seamers taking 20+ wickets at sub-25 averages over the season, plus many more a little less than that mark. Last season was similar too.

Prior to the last two seasons, spinners were far more prevalent at the top of the wicket-takers list than seamers.

Doubt anyone can be bothered doing it, but would be interested in the averages split between pre-Xmas and post-Xmas shield matches. In many years the conditions could barely be more different.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

Donway warming up nicely for the NZ A... boy does he score runs in heaps. Just one more game or two and can't wait to see him play for black caps. Bracewell approaching a hundy as well, can't remember when he last scored a hundred. Must have been few years. I don't think he has got one for Firebirds.

Last first class hundred was March 2015, eep. But he did get a Ford Trophy one for Wellington a few seasons ago.

Even if Conway was to get out now on 137, he's averaging 55.7 so far this season. Honestly it's a waste of time not to just put him straight into the test team, imo. They just have to find a spot with these numbers.

 

[nzfan]

Last first class hundred was March 2015, eep. But he did get a Ford Trophy one for Wellington a few seasons ago.

Even if Conway was to get out now on 137, he's averaging 55.7 so far this season. Honestly it's a waste of time not to just put him straight into the test team, imo. They just have to find a spot with these numbers.

Same... if you don't pick a guy when he's in such good form then when? I hope they don't go conservative and not pick him. He's got to be picked and should be batting anywhere between 1 and 5.

 

[Flem274*]

good to see nicholls making 87 at #3. the hard work was done by the openers, but i like him taking on the hardest middle order role and getting as close to fresh bowlers as possible.

there's been a real lack of runs from the established nz top order guys. blundell and taylor are not enjoying big starts to the year. i feel a bit sorry for blundell. he's a good player imo and he was put in a role well outside his lane and actually outplayed his shell shocked teammates, only to now be scrabbling for his spot against conway.

edit - id be tempted to rest up kanes hip this year tbh. we want him to play until he's old, not until his early thirties like so many other nz cricketers. conway could bat #3 in the interim.

 

[Nintendo]

good to see nicholls making 87 at #3. the hard work was done by the openers, but i like him taking on the hardest middle order role and getting as close to fresh bowlers as possible.

there's been a real lack of runs from the established nz top order guys. blundell and taylor are not enjoying big starts to the year. i feel a bit sorry for blundell. he's a good player imo and he was put in a role well outside his lane and actually outplayed his shell shocked teammates, only to now be scrabbling for his spot against conway.

Blundell made a fourth innings 100 a game ago didn't he? He certainly hasn't been extremely great but think as things stand we'll see Nichols go for Conway before blundell.

 

[Flem274*]

the intel seems to be you don't want conway starting against spin, and i don't think nicholls performances warrant an immediate axing, as much as this forum gags for it any time he doesn't ton up.

 

[Kippax]

Think Kippax is being way too hard on Allen - not to say someone (i.e. his coach) shouldn't be blunt in telling him what's going to work and what's not, but could probably do without random internet strangers writing him off when he's 21. Looks more like a limited overs player.

People like you are the problem, actually. Self-enriching, watching the NZ cricket scene from thousands of miles away, doing sfa to help.

 

[Nintendo]

the intel seems to be you don't want conway starting against spin, and i don't think Nicholls performances warrant an immediate axing, as much as this forum gags for it any time he doesn't ton up.

Nicholls has averaged 30 since the start of 2019, don't think it warrants him getting the axe immediately but blundell has had a great start to his test career, he shouldn't be in the firing line for Conway.

 

[nzfan]

Blundell will play don't worry about that and he'll open too. There's absolutely no reason for Blundell not to carry on, Stead has already said that in an interview. Test cricket is a different beast, he'll have lot more help from the staff, the decks will be way better and he'll do all right no doubt. The only spot available is a spinner's at the moment. Looking at the wickets column Sodhi may get in again? Sommerville hasn't bowled badly but not among wickets.

As for Conway, don't know where they're going to fit him in. If Nichcolls is not fully fit there's an opening otherwise it's the standard XI. I think they'll have to name 17 players in the squad. They'll definitely name him and may get a go in one of the two tests.

 

[Flem274*]

People like you are the problem, actually. Self-enriching, watching the NZ cricket scene from thousands of miles away, doing sfa to help.

this is catty and unfair.

straw man is a cricket fan. a fan is someone who enjoys the game, not someone obligated to do nzcs job for them.

your passion for cricket videos is great in and of itself, but it isn't your job to do nzc's job for them either. if the cricketing establishment did begin to see it as your job to do their analysis for them then you should demand money from them.

 

[nzfan]

the intel seems to be you don't want conway starting against spin, and i don't think nicholls performances warrant an immediate axing, as much as this forum gags for it any time he doesn't ton up.

Why? He's handled the spinners all right... if you score so many runs you're bound to have faced pretty much all the spinners in the circuit.

 

[Flem274*]

Why? He's handled the spinners all right... if you score so many runs you're bound to have faced pretty much all the spinners in the circuit.

kippax has watched a ridiculous amount of vault footage and seems to confirm conway is bad against spin at times, especially really bad spinners. he's obviously a test player but i think his run production would be greatest in the top 4 or even top 3.

 

[nzfan]

this is catty and unfair.

straw man is a cricket fan. a fan is someone who enjoys the game, not someone obligated to do nzcs job for them.

your passion for cricket videos is great in and of itself, but it isn't your job to do nzc's job for them either. if the cricketing establishment did begin to see it as your job to do their analysis for them then you should demand money from them.

He's all right Kippax, he's very passionate and loves his cricket by the looks of it. He's definitely harsh on all young lads not just Allen but wants good for Black Caps/Firebirds. His is just an opinion and wouldn't hurt to put the opinion out on forums does it? What else are forums for in any case? There's enough support for Allen as you can see. We all see him as one for the future and Kippax doesn't which is fair.

These lads are going to get criticized like anything particularly these days with social media. Better get used to it.

 

[Flem274*]

i don't care what he says about finn allen, i care what he says to straw man. kippax is a good **** but that was ****in bitchy.

 

[Athlai]

People like you are the problem, actually. Self-enriching, watching the NZ cricket scene from thousands of miles away, doing sfa to help.

 

[straw man]

People like you are the problem, actually. Self-enriching, watching the NZ cricket scene from thousands of miles away, doing sfa to help.

It's cos I picked Solia in my draft now isn't it. Ok I admit that one was a bit moneyballish, but it blew up in my face now he has to open, so you can feel satisfied that karma has been visited upon me.

 

[straw man]

i don't care what he says about finn allen, i care what he says to straw man. kippax is a good **** but that was ****in bitchy.

It's ok, I'm not likely to take anything to heart.