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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread
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Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Surely Watling s/r 42.35 needs to be the keeper! And Pollock e.r. of 2.39 will fix the tail.ER ATG XI - Last 50 years
Criteria - Batsmen have to have SR below 50. Bowlers with ER below 2.5.
Gavaskar (44.4)
Boycott (35.4)
Dravid (42.5)
Kallis (45.9)
Border (41.1)
Miandad (45.9)
Russel (35.8)
Ambrose (2.30)
Garner (2.47)
Murali (2.47)
McGrath (2.49)
That tail.
Nintendo
Cricketer Of The Year
A little bit early to judge since smith's only 31 but at the current time don't think smith>tendulkar is a crazy claim to make based on perspective.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Where's Waqar?
stephen
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Urgh. Knew I'd forget someone.
stephen
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Think about who you'd like to see matching in at 4 when an important series is on the line.
Sachin was good for a hundred and a few 50s every series. Smith is good for three hundreds in a big series.
Shady Slim
International Coach
alarming lack of big vern, he deserves to be there over many a bowler you have there
especially anderson
srbhkshk
International Captain
We'll do a fairer comparison in 2034.
mr_mister
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah it's not crazy in any way. If Smith retired tommorrow trundler would probably be arguing it in 5 years
There's just a bias against players who are still playing. Even if they've already had a long, amazing career. Smith pretty much can't average less than 55 now unless he has a terrible run of form to finish off things in his last few years
Kohli also has done enough to be at least Chappell level by this stage fwiw
aussie tragic
International Captain
This is why I don't rate current players as high as someone who finished their career
Comparison of earlier career and final 2 years (Hammond a massive surprise as he could have averaged 61.46 if he retired 2 years earlier)
Comparison of earlier career and final 2 years (Hammond a massive surprise as he could have averaged 61.46 if he retired 2 years earlier)
HowSTAT! Test Cricket - Batsmen Average Early vs. Late Comparison
Test Cricket - Comparison of batsmens average over career
howstat.com
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Teja.
Global Moderator
Tendulkar from the age of 20-30 averaged 62.3 with the bat in 85 tests which is 7 runs more than anybody else. That is a longer period than Smith's entire career and is comparable and if not better to Smith's dominance.
Batting records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com
He also casually played 14 more years, most of which being an excellent test batsman.
Magrat Garlick
Rather Mad Witch
in fairness you can chop off the first two years similar to how you chop off Tendulkar's first three years cos he was a teen then.