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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread
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Fuller Pilch
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Interesting also that Worrell got picked, while neither Weekes nor Walcott were selected despite both averaging much more.
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This was because of Worrell's stature as a great captain and ambassador of the game. Richie said Worell could manage the first XI and represent him anywhere.
Fuller Pilch
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Fair enough. I've seen a video showing how angry Richie was after the underarm, so I'm not surprised he needed another captain instead of G Chappell.
h_hurricane
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And also Lillee, Warne, Mcgrath, Marsh etc. These guys almost never carried themselves well on the field.
Overall though, except for WI bowlers not making there, I really liked Benaud's teams. Better than most all time XIs ever created.
NotMcKenzie
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Warne's a leg-spinner*. Of course you've got to include him.
*In more than one way?
honestbharani
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Benaud has just been super biased with his picks. I think the book came out in the early noughties? He was extremely biased as a commentator around this time too. So not surprised his picks reflect that.
Line and Length
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Which book? His 3 ATG teams was published in "My Spin on Cricket" in 2005 and the book "Remembering Richie" is a collection of his work plus contributions from colleagues and came out following his death in 2015.
I doubt these teams were his views in the early noughties. McGrath didn't debut until 1993 and Warne and Lara certainly hadn't reached their peak.
"Super biased" - probably no more than any other former player listing his greatest team.
Red
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It’s not “quirky” not including Marshall in 3 XIs. It’s weird. And wrong.
honestbharani
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No, bias implies he selects sides based on the players he likes and dislikes. If I thought he was only biased towards aussies, I would said aussie bias, won't I?
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honestbharani
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Nope... coz its obviously not metrics, and it is obvious bias.
TheJediBrah
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I know "bias" is like your favourite word but I don't think you're using it right. If you mean to say that he favours players that he thinks are good and would represent a team well, that's literally what everyone would do when picking a team.
the big bambino
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Agree with this. Thought tests were between actual countries not some harlem globetrotters like XI. I Aus were pissed with the ashes and wanted to beat up on someone until they could get their hands on England again. Also without that game as a test Murali's average in Australia blows out to 106 which would be great to throw into every Murali v Warne **** fight.
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I don't mind that the 05 ROW game counts. It's the only time as far as I'm aware that a ROW team was actually pretty much legit full strength. Definitely wouldn't say it was just "thrown together" either, to get all those players available. Also wouldn't mind if it didn't count though. Guess what I'm saying is that if any game between not-both-countries was going to counted, that would be the one.