Jimmy Anderson

[wpdavid]

Never realized Malcolm Marshall has 1651 FC wickets @19 SR-45. How he managed to take more than 1000 wickets for Hampshire between his international duties is remarkable. Walsh also had 869 wickets for Gloucestershire where he landed the same year of his Windies debut. They were probably the most fit pacers ever.

Jimmy is fit but he's not that kind of fit and he hasn't played LOs for a long time either. But he's still definitely in the upper echelon for fitness.

Do we know for certain that Marshall took over 1000 wickets for Hampshire? Lots of his 1645 FC wickets would have been for Barbados and Natal.
If so, we're talking 11 seasons from 1979 to 1993 excluding the four WI tours in 1980, 1984, 1988 and 1991, so it's possible but extraordinary.

 

[a massive zebra]

Yeah but no LOs and fewer number of tests back then.

But their overall workload was greater. The total number of balls bowled by Statham and Trueman in first class cricket was greater than the workloads of Anderson and Broad in all professional cricket.

Bowling 10 overs in a one day match or 4 overs in a T20 a couple of times a week does not require the same fitness levels as bowling 20 overs an innings, 6 days a week, for weeks on end.

 

[a massive zebra]

Do we know for certain that Marshall took over 1000 wickets for Hampshire? Lots of his 1645 FC wickets would have been for Barbados and Natal.
If so, we're talking 11 seasons from 1979 to 1993 excluding the four WI tours in 1980, 1984, 1988 and 1991, so it's possible but extraordinary.

He did, but they were not all first-class wickets. Marshall took 826 first-class and 239 List A wickets in his 11 years with Hampshire, spread between 1979 and 1993.

 

[Daemon]

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[nightprowler10]

What is his average if you take out those first 30-35 Tests?

 

[honestbharani]

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Obviously well past his peak. Hit it before his 50th test, searching for it since.

 

[GIMH]

What is his average if you take out those first 30-35 Tests?

Not sure how many Tests, but it drops to 25ish if you start the filter at the NZ series in 08, which was when he became a regular

 

[wpdavid]

I dug out footage of his first test, at home to Zimbabwe all those years ago. He looked about 15 tbh, so I don't believe for a moment that he's actually 38. I don't get many things right, but my prediction at the start of 2003 was that he'd go on and have a better test career than Steve Harmison, who was the other young English quick to make his debut around then. Obviously I kept quiet about that prediction for the next five years or so, but now seems as good a time as any.

 

[Groundking]

What is his average if you take out those first 30-35 Tests?

If you look at his record from the start of the last decade (1/1/10) he's played 112 matches taking 452 @ 24.15

 

[_Ed_]

Remarkable from Shoaib.

 

[chris.hinton]

taking 3.8 wickets per test is barely doing your job, but good on him for hanging around long enough to make some stats worth looking at

Been a great player. who has improved with age. He is perhaps Englands best ever bowler but i would put him behind a few fast bowlers across time

 

[honestbharani]

He is always a salty character though.

 

[Red]

This thread is so sour its put me off my coffee

Year on year his average has dropped over a period about 12 years. Meanwhile lesser nations roll out the next big thing, he plays 8 tests, breaks and onto the next. And Jimmy keeps going, and keeps owning batsman.

Brain dead aussies like Burgey can c&p the drivel they've been posting since 2009 all they like, they know deep down the only reason they got their 2-2 draw, and therefore retained The Ashes on a technicality having won them with sandpaper, was that Jimmy suffered a rare injury. It was going to be the end of him, like they all are, and yet here we are. Meanwhile Australian quicks in their early 20s need shin replacements and such like. They don't make them like Jimmy over there.

We make em work til they break then we rebuild them and they come back stronger than ever.

 

[Daemon]

Remarkable from Shoaib.

heh, this is like when Yuvraj congratulated Broad on his 500

 

[srbhkshk]

Made a detailed version of that Cricinfo graph, he has improved both Home and Away over time. (The clipped off portion of the graph, he was averaging 55+).

 

[vcs]

Who is usually considered England's greatest ever bowler? Lohmann or Barnes? Or Jim Laker?

 

[OverratedSanity]

Talking of fitness it makes you think how much longer Steyn would have gone on if he hadn't played so much of the shorter versions of the game.

He didnt play too many ODIs at all did he? Did play the t20 stuff though. Steyn himself always maintained during his last 3-4 years that he believed he needed regular cricket to stay fit, so who knows.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Remarkable from Shoaib.

Haha genuinely think that might be unintentional. Shoaib gets tongue tied quite frequently so Im not sure he meant it as a jab. Pretty good if it was though.

 

[harsh.ag]

Shoaib WAG

 

[trundler]

Who is usually considered England's greatest ever bowler? Lohmann or Barnes? Or Jim Laker?

Trueman or Barnes. Verity and Underwood would be tied with Laker probably.