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Nah he got Dravid and Laxman out quite a lot. Usually conceded a lot and choked in the bigger moments though.And a lot of those wickets came against Ramesh, Parthiv Patel etc..
Nah he got Dravid and Laxman out quite a lot. Usually conceded a lot and choked in the bigger moments though.And a lot of those wickets came against Ramesh, Parthiv Patel etc..
He's got a point, bored coders here are atleast transparent on the methodology/formula used.Why wouldn't they be? If bored coders on here can account for those things in their rankings why wouldn't the official ICC rankings be more nuanced?
Pandemic or not he was going to overtake lara in his career for sure. His ban delayed it bit for him.Smith's going to stay there for a while, will definitely go past Lara, what with the pandemic and all.
Gooch was among very few batsman in 90s to have 50+ avg. I think sachin, waugh & lara are the others.Really fun to watch it.
- Gooch's dominance is interesting to note in early 90s
- Lara - Wow
- Ponting, Kallis and Chanderpaul more late to party than I thought
- Smith towards the end be like - hold my beer
And Flower IIRC.Gooch was among very few batsman in 90s to have 50+ avg. I think sachin, waugh & lara are the others.
No he didn't avg 50+ in 90s.And Flower IIRC.
I think that's because of the 'delay' right - your points are an accumulator (correct? over the past few years?), so people generally remember Ponting starting to peak some time from the early 2000s - but his preceding years weren't as great relatively speaking, so by the time he was showing up as number 1, he was already well into his peak or even towards the end of it.Really fun to watch it.
- Gooch's dominance is interesting to note in early 90s
- Lara - Wow
- Ponting, Kallis and Chanderpaul more late to party than I thought
- Smith towards the end be like - hold my beer
Yep.Gooch was among very few batsman in 90s to have 50+ avg. I think sachin, waugh & lara are the others.
According to Marcus Berkmann’s book on the ratings, dismissing high-rated batsmen does get a bowler more credit than dismissing low-rated batsmen. (Admittedly that book is now 30 years old).I reckon these rankings must place a decent premium on top order wickets/ quality of wickets? Ambrose's amount of time at the top is otherwise pretty surprising, as is the fact that mcgrath was so far ahead of warne- I would have expected their wpm and average to have evened out somewhat.
You're probably right but he also took it up a notch when handed the captaincy.Haq's average in 90s stands out for me among those who played a lot of cricket in 90s. He was averaging just 43 at the end of decade and then finished with average of just shade under 50. It illustrates how much easier naughties were for batting (without meaning disrespect to Haq).
I'm not saying they couldn't be. I just really doubt they are.Why wouldn't they be? If bored coders on here can account for those things in their rankings why wouldn't the official ICC rankings be more nuanced?
The past weekend has shown that we should never give the administrators too much creditI'm not saying they couldn't be. I just really doubt they are.
As I said earlier in this thread, he always comes out strong when you look at objective and unfiltered numbers. His peak ICC rating points are quite healthy too.Biggest surprise is Pollock having such a long stay
yeah, because of the pandemicSmith's going to stay there for a while, will definitely go past Lara, what with the pandemic and all.
Ganguly finished the 90s with a near 50 batting average, but his career average is 42.17 with his last test in 2008. Tanked the 00s when he should have been adding.Haq's average in 90s stands out for me among those who played a lot of cricket in 90s. He was averaging just 43 at the end of decade and then finished with average of just shade under 50. It illustrates how much easier naughties were for batting (without meaning disrespect to Haq).