Good on him. I really hope that we (NZ) can make (and win) the World Test Championship final to strike a blow for the little guys. I'd rate our chances against England or India in the final, but not Australia.Very powerful press conference from Jason Holder on the lack of funding for those outside the big 3. Hopefully the ICC heed his words
I'll be supporting you guys all the way, except if we tour at the end of the year! Dread to think what Wagner will do if this lot get selected again.Good on him. I really hope that we (NZ) can make (and win) the World Test Championship final to strike a blow for the little guys. I'd rate our chances against England or India in the final, but not Australia.
WI did remarkably well considering the comparative personnel in both sides and the conditions they were playing in. It is true the WI batting is woeful. You will lose if your top six and seven average in the high twenties and low thirties. Simply not test class. But the conditions also exaggerated the comparison between the bowling teams too. Most players naturally do better at home than away. It's difficult for touring teams to keep the gap in performance to manageable levels. The difference in averages between say Broad, Woakes and Anderson at home and Gabriel, Roach and Holder away is as high as 15 or 16 runs per wicket. That is an enormous advantage to concede.Absolutely nothing to do with BLM. We have a superb bowling attack and they blew England away in the first test and our batters managed to scrape together 300. Don;t let this terrible performance fool you into thinking we did not win that first test on merit. We were the better side for the vast majority of that first test and deserved to win.
As the series went on, our bowlers got tired, England batted better and the gulf between the two batting sides really began to show. I have said it a few times, but we won;t beat a team as good as England away without improving our batting.
FMD what a patronizing post this is. And completely inaccurate given England's batting is as weak as piss too.Just barely, though. This is obviously not a popular opinion but the gulf that opened up between the sides by the end suggests that WI rode on the adrenaline of the BLM build-up initially and by the same token England might have been a little meek at first but as that factor abated something like the natural balance between the sides, at least in English conditions, was restored.
I agree. Good work techie people.Forum looks awesome now
I think he continued to bowl well. He beat the bat a ridiculous amount of times in the second test, was insanely unlucky.Holder was quite disappointing in this series besides Day 1.
Yup, the second half of the 1980s was the absolute worst time to be an England supporter. Five home series defeats on the trot without winning a single test in any of them. 1986, 1988 and 1989 especially bad for the cast-of-thousands approach to selection. Not saying that we were world beaters in the 1990s, but we were unlucky to draw in WI at the start of the decade, did draw with them twice at home, beat NZ twice away and a few other wins plus the ones you mentioned. Obviously Australia dicked us every time.in the 90s i can only remember a 96 win over india and an epic but incredibly umpire assisted win over south africa in 98 where england for once had gough, fraser and cork all firing at the same time (i think caddick was out of favour). i don't remember anything pre 93.
it was absolutely dire but the second half of the 80s and that legendary ashes where they selected a billion players does sound terribad.
It's oft been a point made by me that we were worse in the 80s than the 90s, but never pretend we were good in the 90s, because we were dogshite for the most part.Yup, the second half of the 1980s was the absolute worst time to be an England supporter. Five home series defeats on the trot without winning a single test in any of them. 1986, 1988 and 1989 especially bad for the cast-of-thousands approach to selection. Not saying that we were world beaters in the 1990s, but we were unlucky to draw in WI at the start of the decade, did draw with them twice at home, beat NZ twice away and a few other wins plus the ones you mentioned. Obviously Australia ****ed us every time.
Saw a thing from CricViz and the expected bowling averages of the main bowlers were all pretty close - unsurpisingly Broad slightly ahead of the rest but it really is pretty close and Archer, Stokes and Wood all with lower expected averages then any of West Indies seamers in this series. Which unfortunately highlights how big a problem the batting is. Chase, Holder and Dowrich normally get some runs in fairness to them and all offer a secondary skill - in Holder's case the batting is probably his secondary skill. But the top four is a problem - unfortunately it seems there isn't a whole lot of depth - calls for Pooran but would want him to play some FC cricket first - if you drop Hope and include Pooran when does Hope merit re-selection on the basis of his white-ball game he seems a decent bet for the West Indies test side - the same criteria being used to promote Pooran. Also where would Pooran bat? If it isn't in the top four I question the need for him. Would be unfair on Chase, Dowrich, Holder which has often been the strongest part of the batting and Blackwood has been one of the more impressive batsman this series. Especially with Hetmyer waiting in the wings too.WI did remarkably well considering the comparative personnel in both sides and the conditions they were playing in. It is true the WI batting is woeful. You will lose if your top six and seven average in the high twenties and low thirties. Simply not test class. But the conditions also exaggerated the comparison between the bowling teams too. Most players naturally do better at home than away. It's difficult for touring teams to keep the gap in performance to manageable levels. The difference in averages between say Broad, Woakes and Anderson at home and Gabriel, Roach and Holder away is as high as 15 or 16 runs per wicket. That is an enormous advantage to concede.
However and congrats to the WI bowlers who managed to improve on their away records this series. They managed to exploit England's batting frailties and take a test and almost draw a series. They did their part in managing the disadvantage. But the English bowlers, particularly Broad and Woakes also improved on their home averages and reasserted their superiority in the conditions.