ODI Debut Chronology draft

[kingkallis]

Luckily I have nothing on tomorrow

Kane Williamson (2010-09-10)


Matthew Hayden
Rohit Sharma
Kane Williamson 6
Damian Martyn
Steve Waugh * 5
Neil Fairbrother
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Shahid Afridi 4
Wasim Akram 1
Brett Lee 2
Allan Donald 3

I honestly thought you'd go for a bowling all-rounder though...

 

[mr_mister]

Yeah, perhaps I tend to overrate Steve Waugh's bowling a bit I guess. He had a long period of his ODI career as a legitmate allrounder though who bowled his full quota or close to it more often than not. Iceman's a pretty solid nickname to have as well when its related to your death bowling - it seems like his death bowling in his prime as a bowler is kinda a moderate upgrade on Stoinis

Kinda like Wilfred Rhodes's batting in test drafts, it's kinda hard to know how he'l be received by voters on his second skill

 

[weldone]

Test match 5th bowler is different from ODI 5th bowler though. Test match 5th bowler doesn't need to bowl close to 1/5 th of the overs.

 

[mr_mister]

Test match 5th bowler is different from ODI 5th bowler though. Test match 5th bowler doesn't need to bowl close to 1/5 th of the overs.

oh, I'm saying his ODI bowling was more legit than his test bowling. Wasn't it? I assume Iceman wasn't given to him as a nickname for his test bowling

 

[kingkallis]

oh, I'm saying his ODI bowling was more legit than his test bowling. Wasn't it? I assume Iceman wasn't given to him as a nickname for his test bowling

weldone did not meant that. What he is saying is that expecting 10 overs each game from Steve Waugh is too much of an ask.

 

[ankitj]

• RedHill - Clive Lloyd (1973-09-05), Gordon Greenidge (1975-06-11), Curtly Ambrose (1988-03-12), Adam Gilchrist (1996-10-25), Harbhajan Singh (1998-04-17), Shane Bond (2002-01-11), Kevin Pietersen (2004-11-08), Hashim Amla (2008-03-09), Ravindra Jadeja (2009-02-08)
• Ankitj - Imran Khan (1974-08-31), Desmond Haynes (1978-02-22), Waqar Younis (1989-10-14), Anil Kumble (1990-04-25), Inzamam-ul-Haq (1991-11-22), Shaun Pollock (1996-01-09), AB de Villiers (2005-02-02), David Warner (2009-01-18), Steven Smith (2010-02-19)
• Mr_mister - Wasim Akram (1984-11-23), Steve Waugh (1986-01-09), Neil Fairbrother (1987-04-02), Allan Donald (1991-11-10), Damien Martyn (1992-12-08), Matthew Hayden (1993-05-19), Shahid Afridi (1996-10-02), Brett Lee (2000-01-09), Rohit Sharma (2007-06-23), Kane Williamson (2010-09-10)
• Honestbharani - Viv Richards (1975-06-07), Martin Crowe (1982-02-13), Carl Hooper (1987-03-18), ​Michael Bevan (1994-04-14), Nathan Astle (1995-01-22), MS Dhoni (2004-12-23), Liam Plunkett (2005-12-10), Mitchell Starc (2010-10-20)
• Trundler - Glenn Turner (1973-02-11), Andy Roberts (1975-06-07), Sachin Tendulkar (1989-12-18), Saqlain Mushtaq (1995-09-25), Shoaib Akhtar. (1998-03-28), Kumar Sangakkara (2000-07-10), Shane Watson (2002-03-25), Eoin Morgan (2006-08-05), Morne Morkel (2007-06-06),Chris Woakes (2011-01-23)
• Stephen - Richard Hadlee (1973-02-11), Michael Holding (1976-08-26), Mark Waugh (1988-12-11), Shane Warne (1993-03-24), Shivnarine Chanderpaul (1994-10-17), Andrew Flintoff (1999-04-07), Michael Hussey (2004-02-01), Dale Steyn (2005-08-17), Mushfiqur Rahim (2006-08-06), Ben Stokes (2011-08-25)
• KingKallis - Dennis Lillee (1972-08-24), Javed Miandad (1975-06-11), Dean Jones (1984-01-30), Sanath Jayasuriya (1989-12-26), Chris Cairns (1991-02-13), Ricky Ponting (1995-02-15), Andrew Symonds (1998-11-10), Nathan Bracken (2001-01-11), Shakib Al Hasan (2006-08-06), Jonny Bairstow (2011-09-16)
• Pothas - Joel Garner (1977-03-16), Aravinda de Silva (1984-04-31), Saeed Anwar (1989-01-01), Muttiah Muralitharan (1993-08-12), Jacques Kallis (1996-01-09), Makhaya Ntini (1998-01-16), Yuvraj Singh (2000-10-03), Mitchell Johnson (2005-12-10), Jos Buttler (2012-02-21)
• Teuton - Zaheer Abbas (1974-08-31), Malcolm Marshall (1980-05-28), Arjuna Ranatunga (1982-02-14), Craig McDermott (1985-01-06), Brian Lara (1990-11-09), Sourav Ganguly (1992-01-11), Lance Klusener (1996-01-19), Daniel Vettori (1997-03-25), Virat Kohli (2008-08-18), Quinton de Kock (2013-01-19)

Completed

• Weldone - Greg Chappell (1971-01-05), Kapil Dev (1978-10-01), Abdul Qadir (1983-06-11), Courtney Walsh (1985-01-10), Glenn McGrath (1993-12-09), Herschelle Gibbs (1996-10-03), Chris Gayle (1999-09-11), Jacob Oram (2001-01-04), Brendon McCullum (2002-01-17), Ross Taylor (2006-03-01), Faf du Plessis (2011-01-18)

 

[mr_mister]

weldone did not meant that. What he is saying is that expecting 10 overs each game from Steve Waugh is too much of an ask.

Well I dunno, he took just shy of 200 wickets in the format. For about a decade it was perfectly reasonable to expect 10 overs from him each game. He was a death bowler too, which I think elevates him above other 'parttimers' of similar ilk. Not a fill-in-for-a-few in the middle type bowler.

But yeah, he's splitting his 10 with KW anyway hehe. Who would be used to sneak in a couple around the 30th over or so

 

[ankitj]

Red Hill > Teuton

 

[weldone]

oh, I'm saying his ODI bowling was more legit than his test bowling. Wasn't it? I assume Iceman wasn't given to him as a nickname for his test bowling

No, I was commenting about the Wilfred Rhodes comparison. Rhodes doesn't need to bowl 1/5th of the overs in a test match draft team.

 

[mr_mister]

No, I was commenting about the Wilfred Rhodes comparison. Rhodes doesn't need to bowl 1/5th of the overs in a test match draft team.

ah yeah i get that. well would you to hesitate to vote for a draft side where he's being used as the frontline spinner in a test team? if he was also opening the batting.

 

[weldone]

ah yeah i get that. well would you to hesitate to vote for a draft side where he's being used as the frontline spinner in a test team? if he was also opening the batting.

Yes I would hesitate if a ATG draft team has Rhodes as its main frontline spinner. No offence mate - btw your frontline pace attack of Wasim-Donald-Lee is superb. And I also agree about giving 10 overs to Afridi.

 

[ankitj]

No chance Red Hill and Teuton will make their picks before hitting bed?

 

[trundler]

I don't think so

 

[Red]

I really need someone who can bat 7 and bowl 10 overs, so Ravi Jadeja fits the mould. 2009-02-08

 

[Teuton]

Quinton de Kock (2013-01-19)

 

[stephen]

Ankitj -> RH

 

[ankitj]

Going to be bit of cat and mouse now for last few picks.

I'll go Steven Smith (2010-02-19)

 

[stephen]

Nothing like having to bat players out of position to accommodate the available keeper.

 

[mr_mister]

would a test version of this draft work?

 

[ankitj]

would a test version of this draft work?

It will but do we want to start right away? There is the DDD draft that has started.