CA's top 20 batting performances in Australia since 2000

[TheJediBrah]

Can't remember a great deal of either but I remember thinking at the time that the Ponting and Dravid 200s at Adelaide were pretty standard Adelaide-road-athons, like Collingwood's in 06.

The MCG innings definitely stood out from memory. For some reason my clearest memory of it was him getting out, how much he dgaf by the end and just ran down the wicket made a half-assed swipe at a Kumble half-tracker and got stumped

 

[Daemon]

Dravid's 200 isn't as great without the follow up in the second innings

 

[TheJediBrah]

I think putting it no. 3 is pretty generous if anything

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

That poor umpiring decision to get Sangakkara out. What a knock that was!

 

[Daemon]

I think putting it no. 3 is pretty generous if anything

Dunno about that, when you take into consideration both innings like this exercise does, it was monumental in terms of importance.

I think #1 being against a crocked attack and #2 against nehra/agarkar are the only things that I can see being a problem. There's not much wrong with the list overall imo, though I haven't even watched like half of them tbf.

 

[honestbharani]

It really wasn't

Yeah... Dravid's was much much better.

 

[TheJediBrah]

It really wasn't

Yeah... Dravid's was much much better.

both compelling arguments

 

[Days of Grace]

i'll be interested if Days of Grace could post a list based on his system

As requested:

1. R Dravid 233 vs. Australia at Adelaide 2003 (16.79)
2. BC Lara 226 vs. Australia at Adelaide 2005 (15.95)
3. MEK Hussey 134* vs. Pakistan at Sydney 2010 (14.99)
4. LPRL Taylor 290 vs. Australia at Perth 2015 (14.91)
5. RT Ponting 257 vs. India at Melbourne 2003 (14.83)
6. MP Vaughan 183 vs. Australia at Sydney 2003 (14.79)
7. CA Pujara 123 vs. Australia at Adelaide 2018 (14.75)
8. AN Cook 244* vs. Australia at Melbourne 2017 (14.64)
9. JP Duminy 166 vs. Australia at Melbourne 2008 (14.30)
10. BC Lara 182 vs. Australia at Adelaide 2000 (14.20)

4 of the top 10 at Adelaide. 8 of the top 10 by visiting batsmen. Interesting.

 

[TheJediBrah]

As requested:

1. R Dravid 233 vs. Australia at Adelaide 2003 (16.79)
2. BC Lara 226 vs. Australia at Adelaide 2005 (15.95)
3. MEK Hussey 134* vs. Pakistan at Sydney 2010 (14.99)
4. LPRL Taylor 290 vs. Australia at Perth 2015 (14.91)
5. RT Ponting 257 vs. India at Melbourne 2003 (14.83)
6. MP Vaughan 183 vs. Australia at Sydney 2003 (14.79)
7. CA Pujara 123 vs. Australia at Adelaide 2018 (14.75)
8. AN Cook 244* vs. Australia at Melbourne 2017 (14.64)
9. JP Duminy 166 vs. Australia at Melbourne 2008 (14.30)
10. BC Lara 182 vs. Australia at Adelaide 2000 (14.20)

4 of the top 10 at Adelaide. 8 of the top 10 by visiting batsmen. Interesting.

Does your formula take into account road-y-ness of the pitch? If not, or insufficiently, that would explain why so many are at Adelaide. Taylor 290 and Cook 244 were on 2 of the flattest pitches Aus has ever seen too.

edit: and good to see Vaughan on there. A couple of his 2002-03 knocks were better than a lot that made the top 20 and I was slightly perturbed that he wasn't on there. His were against an ATG attack too.

 

[honestbharani]

As requested:

1. R Dravid 233 vs. Australia at Adelaide 2003 (16.79)
2. BC Lara 226 vs. Australia at Adelaide 2005 (15.95)
3. MEK Hussey 134* vs. Pakistan at Sydney 2010 (14.99)
4. LPRL Taylor 290 vs. Australia at Perth 2015 (14.91)
5. RT Ponting 257 vs. India at Melbourne 2003 (14.83)
6. MP Vaughan 183 vs. Australia at Sydney 2003 (14.79)
7. CA Pujara 123 vs. Australia at Adelaide 2018 (14.75)
8. AN Cook 244* vs. Australia at Melbourne 2017 (14.64)
9. JP Duminy 166 vs. Australia at Melbourne 2008 (14.30)
10. BC Lara 182 vs. Australia at Adelaide 2000 (14.20)

4 of the top 10 at Adelaide. 8 of the top 10 by visiting batsmen. Interesting.

That is pretty much upto expectations though. The challenge of a visiting batsman conquering the Aussie bowling attack in Australia is a lot bigger than Aussie batsmen making hay of the visiting bowlers due to the unique challenges you face in Australia but also because almost always Australia has had a very good to great bowling line up.

 

[Days of Grace]

Does your formula take into account road-y-ness of the pitch? If not, or insufficiently, that would explain why so many are at Adelaide. Taylor 290 and Cook 244 were on 2 of the flattest pitches Aus has ever seen too.

edit: and good to see Vaughan on there. A couple of his 2002-03 knocks were better than a lot that made the top 20 and I was slightly perturbed that he wasn't on there. His were against an ATG attack too.

Conditions are factored in. But so is the base score and the opposition.

 

[trundler]

That Hussey 100 vs SA when he had that partnership with McGrath was great too

 

[TheJediBrah]

That is pretty much upto expectations though. The challenge of a visiting batsman conquering the Aussie bowling attack in Australia is a lot bigger than Aussie batsmen making hay of the visiting bowlers due to the unique challenges you face in Australia but also because almost always Australia has had a very good to great bowling line up.

Yeah that's not a surprise at all.

Conditions are factored in. But so is the base score and the opposition.

Judging purely by the list I'd hazard that possibly conditions aren't factored in as much as they could be. More than half of the list were on genuine roads.

 

[Adders]

Surprised that Cooks 2017 MCG is rated higher than his 2010 GABBA tbh......maybe that's just context to the innings. One was career and series defining, the latter a marvelous swansong but irrelevant in the series.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Surprised that Cooks 2017 MCG is rated higher than his 2010 GABBA tbh......maybe that's just context to the innings. One was career and series defining, the latter a marvelous swansong but irrelevant in the series.

I tend to agree with the gist of your post but the MCG ton saved England from what would likely have been a 3rd 5-0 Ashes loss in the space of 12 years so not entirely irrelevant

 

[Adders]

Good point well made.......mad that I've had so many arguments on here defending that 2017 Cook innings against wankers saying it was down hill skiing, no pressure etc. And then I called it "irrelevant"........im giving myself an uppercut as we speak ftr.

 

[stephen]

Cook's 2010 innings was the most impactful innings by a non-South African tourist to Australia since Brian Lara in Sydney 1993.

The 2017 knock may have technically been a better innings against better bowlers but the 2010 innings set the tone for the series and was the foundation for England regaining the ashes.

 

[Burgey]

DoG did you factor in the Australian attack on 03/04? Gillespie, Williams, Bichel and MacGill is decent but hardly top shelf on the then flattest deck in the country.

 

[Burgey]

Yeah... Dravid's was much much better.

Tough knock on a 2000s adelaide deck against the attack I just posted? Dravid’s my fave Indian player ever but this knock was good rather than great tbh.

Funny to see tendulkar get **** all in the first dig, mind you.

 

[honestbharani]

Tough knock on a 2000s adelaide deck against the attack I just posted? Dravid’s my fave Indian player ever but this knock was good rather than great tbh.

Funny to see tendulkar get **** all in the first dig, mind you.

I am not saying it was the greatest knock or anything, juz better than Ponting's. And I agree Sachin's SCG knock of 2004 is EXTREMELY over rated. His knock in 2008 Sydney was so much better. Mind you, if I have to award a batting performance from the 2003-2004 series for sheer batsmanship, I would pick Laxman's SCG knock in 2004. His own knock in 2008 Sydney was plenty awesome too.