DoG's Top 100 Test Batsmen Countdown Thread

[OverratedSanity]

Warner is basically the batting Jadeja in being incredibly destructive against elite opposition at home but mediocre away. I think most, if not a lot on here, wouldn't have him in their top 50, but feels like he might sneak into the top 30.

Warner's already gone at 41. Still a bit higher than most would have had him though. Sehwag and Root I feel are kinda similar, maybe even Hayden. But I don't think we'll have a Jadeja level surprise.

 

[honestbharani]

Will it be a Jadeja level surprise if Root does not make the 100?

 

[Coronis]

Will it be a Jadeja level surprise if Root does not make the 100?

DoG said Williamson was ranked 4th of the Fab Four, so yes.

 

[ankitj]

Sehwag and Chanderpaul can annoy folks if they get rated too highly.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Love that Pup, Cat, and Kane all came together.

 

[ataraxia]

Post-WW 2, there have been many great middle order batsmen.

Post-WW 2, But there has been only great opener IMO. And that is Gavaskar.

Using that logic, Gavaskar being rated ahead of Sachin wouldn’t surprise me

Barry and Hutton are both greater than Gavaskar IMO.

 

[kyear2]

Barry and Hutton are both greater than Gavaskar IMO.

This for me as well.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Is Gavaskar rated that high because of his pioneering efforts?

 

[ataraxia]

My personal opener ranking:

Hutton
Hobbs
Grace
Richards
Sutcliffe
Gavaskar

Those are the ATGs. Then a huge gap down to the likes of Smith, Morris, Simpson, and Boycott.

 

[Athlai]

Hobbs
Hutton
Gavaskar
Guptill
Grace

for me

 

[TheBrand]

Really surprised that Kane is below Root in this. Be interesting to see where they finish up at the end of their careers.

 

[morgieb]

The only surprise regarding Bradman might be him being number 1 by less than a 500 point margin.

I don't know, isn't he only the 8th greatest cricketer of all-time?

 

[Burgey]

Doesn't seem to be any uploads of that innings on Youtube, but it does at least have this shot: https://youtu.be/3QH1tDOH_6E?t=137

Morkel was actually bowling quite well IIRC. Clarke treated him like a park bowler.

I mean, 5/482 at stumps day one is ridiculous.

 

[Days of Grace]

No.35

Javed Miandad (Pakistan) 778

Quality Points: 704
Career Points: 74

Career/Runs: 1976-1993, 8832 (rank 15)

Overall average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 49.34 (52.57) 43.86 (46.73) 46.55 (47.04) (rank 25)
50 Innings Peak Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate (1984-1989): 57.74 53.12 46.77 (rank 50)
Non-Home Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 44.03 40.61 45.24 (rank 72)
Quality Opposition Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 40.51 37.59 45.77 (rank 110)

It may come as a surprise to many that Javed Miandad is not rated higher, nor is he Pakistan's top ranked batsman. Two factors count against him. One being that he never had a truly outstanding peak, only being ranked no.50 in that regard. In addition, his average against the quality opposition of his day was relatively mediocre. As a case in point, he only averaged 33.62 (29.79) against the West Indies from 28 innings, despite scoring two outstanding centuries on the 1988 tour. This also counts against his overall average, being marked down three points to 49.34. Miandad was without doubt though one of the great middle-order batsmen of his era and with Imran Khan ensured that Pakistan was usually second only to the great West Indian teams of the 1980s.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

He was and is still what a Pakistani batsman is supposed to be. High on the totem pole.

 

[mr_mister]

Why is a peak so revered again? Wouldn't it mean players without one were more consistent in cases where 2 guys averaged 50

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Was Carl Hooper the last one to rock those type of helmets? Or was it Sanath Jayasuriya?

 

[Athlai]

Why is a peak so revered again? Wouldn't it mean players without one were more consistent in cases where 2 guys averaged 50

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[steve132]

Barry and Hutton are both greater than Gavaskar IMO.

I agree. Barry Richards is definitely underrated because he did not play much Test cricket. His performances in World Series Cricket (which was of a higher quality than most Test cricket) provide a glimpse of how special a player he was. Many cricketers consider him the most technically perfect batsman they have ever seen. He could also improvise brilliantly as well.

 

[Logan]

Barry and Hutton are both greater than Gavaskar IMO.

Hutton is an ATG opener. Meant Gavaskar is the only opener who made his debut post-WW2.

IMO, Gavaskar > Hutton though.

Barry Richards played just 4 Tests. Impossible to say he was better than a player who played 125 Tests.