Who's picking Walsh ahead of Marshall/Garner/Ambrose/Holding? It's not even obvious he's first reserve with Roberts/Bishop/Croft also available.
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The Records and Milestones thread
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stephen
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Fair call. My main point was that the West Indies in 1995 were far from being a poor team. They were at the end of their dominance but still had some great players.
stephen
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The Windies in the 1980s were ridiculously dominant but like the Aussies of the early 00s, their dominance was probably exaggerated by the lack of other great sides of the time.
The early 00s Aussies really only had South Africa who were in the same ball park as them (And India at home of course). India never had a good enough bowling side away from home, England were garbage except for one brief home series where the stars aligned, Sri Lanka and Pakistan were woeful in Australia and not good enough at home. The West Indies had fallen off a cliff and New Zealand hasn't been competitive against Australia since Hadlee had retired.
The 80s Windies had few opponents who could field more than one great player. For England it was Botham, Australia had Border, India had Gavaskar and New Zealand Hadlee. Pakistan had a strong team in the era with Imran and Wasim. South Africa weren't even in the game and Sri Lanka were minnows.
In both sides any weaknesses were covered by simply being way better than everyone else out there at the time, which sounds obvious, but it's difficult to say what would have happened if both sides had emerged at the same time.
The great West Indies sides went completely untested against quality spin. The great Australian sides spent most of their time at the top playing in relatively flat wickets, with few genuinely great pace bowlers around. A five test series between the two would be mouth watering (especially if there were no over rate restrictions).
The early 00s Aussies really only had South Africa who were in the same ball park as them (And India at home of course). India never had a good enough bowling side away from home, England were garbage except for one brief home series where the stars aligned, Sri Lanka and Pakistan were woeful in Australia and not good enough at home. The West Indies had fallen off a cliff and New Zealand hasn't been competitive against Australia since Hadlee had retired.
The 80s Windies had few opponents who could field more than one great player. For England it was Botham, Australia had Border, India had Gavaskar and New Zealand Hadlee. Pakistan had a strong team in the era with Imran and Wasim. South Africa weren't even in the game and Sri Lanka were minnows.
In both sides any weaknesses were covered by simply being way better than everyone else out there at the time, which sounds obvious, but it's difficult to say what would have happened if both sides had emerged at the same time.
The great West Indies sides went completely untested against quality spin. The great Australian sides spent most of their time at the top playing in relatively flat wickets, with few genuinely great pace bowlers around. A five test series between the two would be mouth watering (especially if there were no over rate restrictions).
Victor Ian
International Coach
Over rates would not be a issue in such a series. Youd just cop the fines and rotate 'captaincy' so no one missed a game.
Slifer
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Lol true.
Starfighter
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I've heard you're not allowed to do that.
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ankitj
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Try taking a break from the forum if you are so sick. That's no excuse for your sick posting. I mean you are triggered because Indian posters did not post about a record of an Australian player. You OK?
OverratedSanity
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Can't see them tbh. Would love if someone pointed them out so I may call hurricane a biased ****.
Red
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Cheers, will do. Catch you later ??
Victor Ian
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I think Australia would have a harder time adjusting to the 80s than the Windies would adjusting to the noughties. Just a gut feel based on watching Border taking them on and noting the number of + 50 avering batsmen of the later era. That said, id love to see what kind of figures McGrath would have had in the 80s.
Starfighter
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They won't want to pay the fine after a while. You need to get money to buy food to eat, and I'm well aware that some WI cricketers were not on good pay a long time. Don't forget that if the rules as they were over the past few years were applied then they would easily have three or four people who had captained being banned for a year due to major over-rate offences. That'll really help team stability and the batting lineup.
stephen
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That's because Hooper bowled a decent chunk of overs in that era.
You would imagine that the best overall batting lineup in 50 years would last 90 overs most of the time, even against the Windies greats.
stephen
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That's true too. Helmets are a huge game changer. I imagine playing without them would be difficult when you're used to them. Just like modern bowlers aren't as intimidating as those of the past because of helmets.
Slifer
International Captain
Yeah they'd probably last the 90 days on flatter surfaces like Sydney but at the old perth pitch or Sabina I doubt it. On another note, what a waste of talent Carl Hooper was. Was already a magnificent slip fielder but he should've been able to average 45 + with the bat and around 30 or so with the ball....smh