DoG's Top 100 Test Batsmen Countdown Thread

[harsh.ag]

That seems... low.

 

[mr_mister]

Kiwi meltdown alert

 

[OverratedSanity]

It seems low, but then again you look at the list and he's only dropped 9 spots from last time.

 

[The Battlers Prince]

It does seem as though the next 15-20 names are to be scrutinized against Crowe to justify him being so low

 

[Days of Grace]

To be honest, some of Crowe’s high scores were made against poor attacks or in good batting conditions. I’m thinking specifically of the 299 and the 180-odd at the Gabba in 1985.

 

[aussie tragic]

Oh wow, Martin Crowe way too low

Can't wait for the comparison with 74 and 73

 

[Days of Grace]

No.73

Thilan Samaraweera (Sri Lanka) 704

Quality Points: 656
Career Points: 48

Career/Runs: 2001-2013, 5462 (rank 95)

Overall average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 45.04 (48.77) 38.22 (41.38) 42.08 (46.92) (rank 95)
50 Innings Peak Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate (2008-2011): 63.07 49.19 48.08 (rank 40)
Non-Home Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 39.72 34.60 42.84 (rank 142)
Quality Opposition Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 41.61 34.67 42.47 (rank 126)

 

[harsh.ag]

Yessss

 

[h_hurricane]

Allan Border averaged only 39 against WI though he averaged 53 against them away from home. Will be interesting to see where he is placed.

 

[Slifer]

Allan Border averaged only 39 against WI though he averaged 53 against them away from home. Will be interesting to see where he is placed.

An average of 39 vs the wi teams that he faced is pretty decent afaic.

 

[h_hurricane]

An average of 39 vs the wi teams that he faced is pretty decent afaic.

Yes pretty decent absolutely. Might be a bit below par on the quality points though in this regard. Having said that, he made it up with a great overseas record. Averages 56 !

 

[ataraxia]

I can understand Crowe being this low. But I can't understand ----ing Samaraweera being higher than him.

 

[jaideep]

@DOG You have both Eddie Barlow and Martin Crowe at No 75.

 

[Bolo.]

Interesting that Crowe's adjusted average ends up lower than his actual one. The idea of him being underranked comes from him being fairly outstanding for his era.

Compare his level of adustment to Samarweera, who had (by impression) easy home and away pitches, and poor opposition bowlers by both era and typical opponents. Yes, Sama gets knocked down more. But not to the degree I would have expected.

 

[Gob]

Interesting to see who'd be no 2

Sobers, Tendulkar, Marnus all have decent shots

 

[Burgey]

I can understand Crowe being this low. But I can't understand ----ing Samaraweera being higher than him.

Yeah seems strange tstl. Every system gonna have its vagaries I guess.

 

[Days of Grace]

No.72

Justin Langer (Australia) 707

Quality Points: 644
Career Points: 63

Career/Runs: 1993-2007, 7674 (rank 36)

Overall average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 42.99 (45.68) 40.13 (42.63) 49.77 (54.21) (rank 87)
50 Innings Peak Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate (2004-2006): 51.87 46.68 51.82 (rank 88)
Non-Home Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 39.42 36.21 49.81 (rank 113)
Quality Opposition Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 42.12 39.59 51.13 (rank 87)

 

[aussie tragic]

Who would you want in your team, Martin Crowe or Justin Langer?

Easy choice to pick Crowe.

 

[Days of Grace]

No.71

Saeed Anwar (Pakistan) 708

Quality Points: 670
Career Points: 38

Career/Runs: 1990-2001, 4052 (rank 152)

Overall average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 44.01 (45.53) 43.04 (44.53) 53.60 (55.77) (rank 60)
50 Innings Peak Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate (1995-1999): 49.32 47.35 56.92 (rank 96)
Non-Home Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 44.52 43.61 54.82 (rank 48)
Quality Opposition Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 42.83 42.08 53.33 (rank 65)

 

[Days of Grace]

Who would you want in your team, Martin Crowe or Justin Langer?

Easy choice to pick Crowe.

Langer is ahead of Crowe based on having a longer career.