*Official* Bangladesh in India 2019

[Arachnodouche]

A match between this current India test side and an Australia XI from late 90s/early 00s would be so tasty

Hypothetical if all are fit (INDIA) : Agarwal, Rohit, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Jadeja, Saha, Ashwin, Umesh, Shami, Bumrah 12th man : Ishant
(AUS) : Hayden, Langer, Ponting, M Waugh, S Waugh, Martyn, Gilchrist, Warne, Gillespie, Lee, McGrath 12th man : MacGill

Both would be unbeatable in their respective backyards you'd imagine. That Aussie batting looks so intimidating though...would bet more on them coming good in India and the bowlers capitalizing than on India doing the same in Aus against Mcgrath and co.

 

[silentstriker]

Both would be unbeatable in their respective backyards you'd imagine. That Aussie batting looks so intimidating though...would bet more on them coming good in India and the bowlers capitalizing than on India doing the same in Aus against Mcgrath and co.

I mean, a team close to that did come to India in 2001 on a record winning streak - and lost vs. a worse Indian team than the current team.


This India team wouldn't beat that Australia team in Australia either though.

 

[vcs]

I'd drop Langer whose record in Asia wasn't the greatest and ask Mark Waugh to open like Rohit for us. Clarke would come into the middle order, he played some terrific knocks in India and would also be useful with the ball on a turning pitch (6/9). Kasprowicz comes in for Lee because he had a decent series when Australia won in 2004.


Hayden
Mark Waugh
Ponting
Martyn
Clarke
Steve Waugh
Gilchrist
Warne
Gillespie
Kasprowicz
McGrath

 

[vcs]

That fourth bowling option is a bit of weak point in that Australian side though, especially if Warne goes as he usually does in India. They are bowling to a batting lineup that can do some damage down the order with Jadeja and Ashwin.

 

[Daemon]

That fourth bowling option is a bit of weak point in that Australian side though, especially if Warne goes as he usually does in India. They are bowling to a batting lineup that can do some damage down the order with Jadeja and Ashwin.

Warne surely the fifth bowling option against India when Clarke is around

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Deep Backward Square Cricket Club is proud to have Shami in our team. What an asset!

 

[silentstriker]

It's insane that after this next Test match, India will have played 3/6 for the WTC (with the final being in June 2021) while Pakistan have played none. And no other country has played more than 1/6. Definitely front loaded. After February of 2020, their next Test series is all the way in November - the two big series being Australia and England. You'd think those would decide who plays in the finals.

 

[Noumenon]

Prithvi Shaw should be available throughout the forthcoming Ranji season, injuries permitting. He's fragile. Provided he monsters it, and Rohit predictably shits himself overseas in NZ and Oz, we may yet see the return of the prodigal son when England arrive in January 2021.

 

[morgieb]

I'd drop Langer whose record in Asia wasn't the greatest and ask Mark Waugh to open like Rohit for us. Clarke would come into the middle order, he played some terrific knocks in India and would also be useful with the ball on a turning pitch (6/9). Kasprowicz comes in for Lee because he had a decent series when Australia won in 2004.


Hayden
Mark Waugh
Ponting
Martyn
Clarke
Steve Waugh
Gilchrist
Warne
Gillespie
Kasprowicz
McGrath

Picking Clarke and the Waugh's in the same XI doesn't make much sense IMO. By the time Clarke was ready to play Tests both of them had either retired or were in serious decline.

 

[Kirkut]

I'd drop Langer whose record in Asia wasn't the greatest and ask Mark Waugh to open like Rohit for us. Clarke would come into the middle order, he played some terrific knocks in India and would also be useful with the ball on a turning pitch (6/9). Kasprowicz comes in for Lee because he had a decent series when Australia won in 2004.


Hayden
Mark Waugh
Ponting
Martyn
Clarke
Steve Waugh
Gilchrist
Warne
Gillespie
Kasprowicz
McGrath

Kasprowicz was a classic Asian conditions bowler, the only reason for the lack of success initially was Tendulkar treating him like a nets bowler.

 

[Kirkut]

The big reason for Ishant Sharma's success is that he doesn't analyze his bowling too much and keeps it simple unlike in the past where tried to bowl outswing. Also having the company of Shami-Bumrah-Umesh plays a role.

 

[Prince EWS]

Kasprowicz was a classic Asian conditions bowler, the only reason for the lack of success initially was Tendulkar treating him like a nets bowler.

Yeah Kaspa was gun for Asian conditions; he bowled a great off cutter and reversed the old ball.

I don't think he was that far behind Lee in Australian conditions for most of Lee's career anyway (only at the very beginning and the very end of Lee's career when he was world class was he really a noticeable step up from him), but in Asia it's no contest. Even if we don't recongise that Kasprowicz was better than his 39 average in India, Lee averaged 61 there (and 61 in nine Tests in Asia overall, as opposed to Kaspa's 33).

 

[vcs]

Picking Clarke and the Waugh's in the same XI doesn't make much sense IMO. By the time Clarke was ready to play Tests both of them had either retired or were in serious decline.

I just picked a hypothetical late '90s-early'00s team assuming everyone is close to their peak.

 

[Prince EWS]

Picking Clarke and the Waugh's in the same XI doesn't make much sense IMO. By the time Clarke was ready to play Tests both of them had either retired or were in serious decline.

Yeah Lehmann makes more sense if you want to drop Langer and open with Waugh IMO.

 

[morgieb]

Yeah Lehmann makes more sense if you want to drop Langer and open with Waugh IMO.

Lehmann in particular was a very good subcontinental player. Did really well against Murali (though oddly failed in the final frontier series).

The one who would've been very ITSTL in Asia was Bevan. Can't justify picking him given his overall record and the fact that he didn't play any Tests in the time but I reckon he could've torn trees up if selected for an Indian or Sri Lankan tour.

 

[Kirkut]

Yeah Kaspa was gun for Asian conditions; he bowled a great off cutter and reversed the old ball.

I don't think he was that far behind Lee in Australian conditions for most of Lee's career anyway (only at the very beginning and the very end of Lee's career when he was world class was he really a noticeable step up from him), but in Asia it's no contest. Even if we don't recongise that Kasprowicz was better than his 39 average in India, Lee averaged 61 there (and 61 in nine Tests in Asia overall, as opposed to Kaspa's 33).

Kasprowicz was indeed better bowler than that 39 average in India, it's just that he ran into Tendulkar at his prime and that too in Indian conditions.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Kasprowicz was indeed better bowler than that 39 average in India, it's just that he ran into Tendulkar at his prime and that too in Indian conditions.

Tendulkar in his prime < Mayank in his prime.

Fact.

 

[silentstriker]

"fact"

 

[ataraxia]

Tendulkar in his prime < Mayank in his prime.

Fact.

Yeah and since Mayank's prime is his whole career he is greater than Tendulkar.

Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman
Mayank
Rohit
Sobers

Best to let the top two openers in history bat down the order in easier conditions.

 

[Kirkut]

Tendulkar in his prime < Mayank in his prime.

Fact.

Nah, Tendulkar in 1998 on Indian/UAE pitches was literally godlike. He would always be a bit cautious in his approach while batting on livelier pitches outside Asia even in his prime but on those slow Asian pitches and that massive MRF bat, he was a different beast. Also pitches in India now are nothing like the classic dustbowls of the past.