*Official* South Africa in India, Sep/Oct 2019

[StephenZA]

Well done to India; clinical decimation. Rohit was fantastic, did far better than I thought, even considering he was playing in India, he fronted up to some good spells from Rabada and Philander early on in the 2nd and 3rd tests, to cash in later.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Mohammad Shami's career numbers are starting to look very impressive indeed.

Bowling records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

Apart from England (where he bowled some searing spells with very little luck), he's done well everywhere.

Didn't realise he had that many wickets already...166 wickets @28 is very good by any standards, let alone a subcontinent pacer. I don't think he's ever had a proper run of 3-4 games in a row where he bowls badly. Always seems to produce something of quality even when not at his best.

 

[srbhkshk]

Didn't realise he had that many wickets already...166 wickets @28 is very good by any standards, let alone a subcontinent pacer. I don't think he's ever had a proper run of 3-4 games in a row where he bowls badly. Always seems to produce something of quality even when not at his best.

I will have to say he occasionally goes missing when the conditions are actually in favor of the bowlers but has been superb otherwise.

 

[marc71178]

Imagine this SA team:
Stiaan van Zyl
Rilee Russouw
Colin Ackermann
Leus du Plooy
Ryan ten Doeschate
Daryn Smit
Vilas
Roelof
Harmer
Abbott
McKerr

What are we supposed to imagine it doing? Getting thrashed by average county sides?

 

[silentstriker]

That was pretty dominant.

 

[mr_mister]

It's cute how excited Indians get over a pacer averaging 28

 

[OverratedSanity]

It's cute how excited Indians get over a pacer averaging 28

I mean no one's saying he's a world beater or anything, just pretty good.

Unlike Mitchell starc. Guy has Mohammad shami's stats and the reputation of Wasim Akram.

 

[srbhkshk]

It's cute how excited Indians get over a pacer averaging 28

It's the equivalent of Australia having a pacer averaging 18, wouldn't you be excited?

 

[ankitj]

Shami for India ATG XI.

 

[ishqiya]

It's cute how excited Indians get over a pacer averaging 28

We do have one averaging 19 too, just saying. Plus a couple of spinners with ~25 average (Warne's average btw)

 

[vcs]

Australians try to convince themselves that Lyon with his average of 33+ is better than Jadeja/Ashwin (who has been below par for two years now).

 

[ishqiya]

Australians try to convince themselves that Lyon with his average of 33+ is better than Jadeja/Ashwin (who has been below par for two years now).

and then they apply the pitch argument which they don't apply for indian pacers vs aussie pacers or smith vs kohli. is it jadeja/ashwin's fault that lyon can't bowl on his home pitches. shami/umesh have outbowled every pacer there is including cummins/rabada/anderson/broad/philander/boult/hazlewood/starc et al on indian soil. not being able to bowl on home soil is a demerit, not an excuse.

 

[h_hurricane]

An ATVG indian bowling line up of Kapil, Shami, Bumrah and Ashwin gives a lineup with 1019 wickets at 27.22. Add Jadeja to it, you get 1230 wickets at 26.72.

Finally India have a "not so laughable as 2 decades back" lineup.

Note that I have not considered average of averages here. Lack of longevity of Bumrah is already factored here.

 

[h_hurricane]

Shami for India ATG XI.

Has gone ahead of Zaheer and Srinath for me.

Fwiw, his bowling strike rate at this moment is better than Hadlee, Lillee, Mcgrath, Ambrose, Akram, Imran,Garner and many more Not saying one bit he is better than them by the way.

 

[ishqiya]

An ATVG indian bowling line up of Kapil, Shami, Bumrah and Ashwin gives a lineup with 1019 wickets at 27.22. Add Jadeja to it, you get 1230 wickets at 26.72.

Finally India have a "not so laughable as 2 decades back" lineup.

Note that I have not considered average of averages here. Lack of longevity of Bumrah is already factored here.

kapil shami bumrah ashwin jadeja is the atg india xi bowling lineup.

 

[ishqiya]

Has gone ahead of Zaheer and Srinath for me.

Fwiw, his bowling strike rate at this moment is better than Hadlee, Lillee, Mcgrath, Ambrose, Akram, Imran,Garner and many more Not saying one bit he is better than them by the way.

i think he'll end up in the second tier with the likes of gillespie et al. 300 something wickets at 26-28.

 

[h_hurricane]

kapil shami bumrah ashwin jadeja is the atg india xi bowling lineup.

Pretty good lower order as well. Could be trusted to score 100 runs on a regular basis.

 

[ishqiya]

Pretty good lower order as well. Could be trusted to score 100 runs on a regular basis.

yeah. kapil ashwin jadeja can make sure india play with 5 bowlers.

gavaskar
sehwag
dravid
tendulkar
kohli
dhoni
kapil
jadeja
ashwin
shami
bumrah

 

[_00_deathscar]

It's cute how excited Indians get over a pacer averaging 28

Sub 25 since 2015.
Ishant is doing 26.22 since 2015.

Which is pretty good when your main bowler is averaging sub 20...

And you have a couple of spinners averaging 25, while also being pretty decent all-rounders (pretty damn good one at that in the case of one of them).

 

[ishqiya]

Sub 25 since 2015.
Ishant is doing 26.22 since 2015.

Which is pretty good when your main bowler is averaging sub 20...

And you have a couple of spinners averaging 25, while also being pretty decent all-rounders (pretty damn good one at that in the case of one of them).

plus umesh, bhuvi, kuldeep in the reserves.

Pax Indica is here.