*Official* Emerging Nations Cricket Thread

[cnerd123]

HK are back in action tomorrow against UAE. They're a solid outfit too, as their win over Ireland demonstrates. We really need Nizakat, Aizaz and Kinchit to all fire with the bat in the same game. Bowling wise we've not been bad, but we can be better - Ehsan Khan and Aizaz Khan in particular are better than what we've seen so far. Kyle Christie hasn't been bad, and it might be worth bringing in legspinner Ghazanfer for Nusrullah Rana given how the pitches seem to be supporting spin.

We really need a win tomorrow night, otherwise I reckon that's the end of our tournament.

 

[Daemon]

Navin wtf!! Just played against him 3 weeks ago and here he is playing a proper gem #humblebrag

 

[Daemon]

He’s a born and bred Singaporean btw. Half Chinese Half Indian.

 

[Briggs]

How is it for these expats infested teams to qualify on slow and turning pitches when the conditions in Australia will be much more different

 

[Daemon]

Buzzing

Great win

The best part of all this is how David hasn’t contributed yet.

 

[Briggs]

Buzzing

Great win

The best part of all this is how David hasn’t contributed yet.

Seriously why the hell that Mahboob guy is the captain? He cant speak proper English? How does he even communicate with other players? I'd give them credit for having at least one native player in the squad which HK, Oman and UAE don't have.

 

[Daemon]

Seriously why the hell that Mahboob guy is the captain? He cant speak proper English? How does he even communicate with other players? I'd give them credit for having at least one native player in the squad which HK, Oman and UAE don't have.

More than half the squad grew up in Singapore and 3/4 learnt all their cricket there.

Without guys like the Boob, this wouldn’t have happened. They set it up and the next generation is taking it forward.

 

[cnerd123]

Seriously why the hell that Mahboob guy is the captain? He cant speak proper English? How does he even communicate with other players? I'd give them credit for having at least one native player in the squad which HK, Oman and UAE don't have.

Lol **** off, more than half the Hong Kong side is born in HK and have represented the country through age group cricket.

England, in the meanwhile, steals cricketers from all over the world as and when it suits them.

 

[Briggs]

Lol **** off, more than half the Hong Kong side is born in HK and have represented the country through age group cricket.

England, in the meanwhile, steals cricketers from all over the world as and when it suits them.

OK HK could be given leeway as they have young player but what about other teams like UAE and Oman? The level of interest in those countries could be figured out by the fact that there's not even a single player in those teams who are either Arab or even passport holders of that country when the citizenship of those countries are given to athletes of other sports such as football and Olympics. There are only 2 under 30 players in UAE squad and not even a single under 25 player in Oman team.

 

[cnerd123]

The populations of both UAE and Oman are like 75% expatriate. They barely have locals in those countries to begin with.

Pretty sure a couple of the UAE players have come through their youth programs too

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Tony Ura is definitely one of the greats of associate cricket. Averages 48 in T20Is

 

[Briggs]

The populations of both UAE and Oman are like 75% expatriate. They barely have locals in those countries to begin with.

Pretty sure a couple of the UAE players have come through their youth programs too

Still there are a lot of people who are born and bred in those countries yet most of their players are domestic rejects from SC countries.

 

[cnerd123]

Still there are a lot of people who are born and bred in those countries yet most of their players are domestic rejects from SC countries.

So countries should not be allowed to pick expats to play for them? I assume you believe that England should drop Jofra Archer right away then. And what about all the times an Associate player gets poached by a larger nation? Think of all the Irish cricketers, Dirk Nannes, Mark Chapman, and the countless Zimbabwean and South African players that have moved to play for a different nation.

Heck even Test playing nations pick 'domestic rejects from SC countries' - Imran Tahir and Fawad Ahmed anyone? Yet when Associates select expat players people get up in arms. It's a maddening double standard.

At the end of the day, Associates need to pick the best teams they can. The blueprint for growth laid out for them by the ICC is:
a) Win international games
b) Get more funding, recognition and sponsors
c) Invest back into grassroots programs.

Nothing wrong with a couple of expats helping them do that, especially considering how tough the qualification criteria is for an expat to play for an associate, and the fact that the Associates can barely pay them. Almost all of these expats work other jobs and play cricket on the side because it's their passion. For you to suggest that just because they left their home country they should no longer be allowed to play cricket at the highest level that they can is ridiculous.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

So countries should not be allowed to pick expats to play for them? I assume you believe that England should drop Jofra Archer right away then. And what about all the times an Associate player gets poached by a larger nation? Think of all the Irish cricketers, Dirk Nannes, Mark Chapman, and the countless Zimbabwean and South African players that have moved to play for a different nation.

Heck even Test playing nations pick 'domestic rejects from SC countries' - Imran Tahir and Fawad Ahmed anyone? Yet when Associates select expat players people get up in arms. It's a maddening double standard.

At the end of the day, Associates need to pick the best teams they can. The blueprint for growth laid out for them by the ICC is:
a) Win international games
b) Get more funding, recognition and sponsors
c) Invest back into grassroots programs.

Nothing wrong with a couple of expats helping them do that, especially considering how tough the qualification criteria is for an expat to play for an associate, and the fact that the Associates can barely pay them. Almost all of these expats work other jobs and play cricket on the side because it's their passion. For you to suggest that just because they left their home country they should no longer be allowed to play cricket at the highest level that they can is ridiculous.

Nope that just isn't true at all. Nannes was already in the Victorian side a good couple of years before he elected to qualify for the Dutch. Try again champ

Otherwise you have a point, but using Nannes as an example is just blatantly dim

 

[Prince EWS]

Ugh Tucker and Leverock ruining it a bit. We should chase this though but I'm fairly certain it won't be a cakewalk.

I'm astounded Tucker is still playing at all, let alone playing so well. He looked finished as a player ten years ago.

 

[Prince EWS]

Nope that just isn't true at all. Nannes was already in the Victorian side a good couple of years before he elected to qualify for the Dutch. Try again champ

Otherwise you have a point, but using Nannes as an example is just blatantly dim

Yeah Nannes was just a heritage player for them. Lived in Australia his whole life I believe.

 

[Daemon]

Lel

 

[cnerd123]

Nope that just isn't true at all. Nannes was already in the Victorian side a good couple of years before he elected to qualify for the Dutch. Try again champ

Otherwise you have a point, but using Nannes as an example is just blatantly dim

Nannes did play for Netherlands before Australia, but yea he's proper Australian.

Point still stands tho - there is a double standard when it comes to Associates selecting expats vs Full Members doing it. The Associates need the expats more too - who else is going to teach the local population about the game and how to play it?

 

[Daemon]

I will admit though that expats raising the standard of cricket can result in a higher barrier of entry for the local ethnic population.

Remains to be seen how the 2nd and 3rd generation of expat kids can bring the game to that demographic.

It’ll take generations probably but it’s better than just sitting on your arse and not developing the game at all.

 

[jimmy101]

The Associates need the expats more too - who else is going to teach the local population about the game and how to play it?

I see no problem with this whatsoever and feel Associates can & should embrace expats. After all Kenya's rise in the late-90's was helped immensely by the migrant South Asian population.