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5th Test at The Oval, London

Spark

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Honestly that could be the worst non review of the lot. That really did look out.

And yes, it does stick in the gears somewhat when that one isn't given but the Wade one yesterday is.
 

Spark

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As bad as Root has been, he's at least done a lot better with reviews. Then again Australia have seemed to cop a disproportionate amount of bad calls......
England have copped plenty of bad calls too tbh. They've just happened to successfully review basically all of them
 

morgieb

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England have copped plenty of bad calls too tbh. They've just happened to successfully review basically all of them
Yeah you're probably right. Though it does help that they successfully review decisions that shouldn't have been overturned #bitter

EDIT: I also feel like a lot of England's reviews were for genuine howlers, whereas Australia have copped a lot of 70/30 style decisions that you can understand being a tad apprehensive to send upstairs but probably should be given out. Then again Paine has used a lot of reviews on speculative stuff just because a wicket hasn't fallen in 20 overs.....
 
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Spark

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Yeah you're probably right. Though it does help that they successfully review decisions that shouldn't have been overturned #bitter

EDIT: I also feel like a lot of England's reviews were for genuine howlers, whereas Australia have copped a lot of 70/30 style decisions that you can understand being a tad apprehensive to send upstairs but probably should be given out. Then again Paine has used a lot of reviews on speculative stuff just because a wicket hasn't fallen in 20 overs.....
Eh, no, I can't really understand being apprehensive about not reviewing that one tbh. That's just a plain old mistake.
 

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
Gah. More Paine DRS failure.

Have to say England have had a fair run with the 50/50's this series.
We have, just as in the WC final. Poor decision by Erasmus. Perhaps he didn't like being screamed at like that by Marsh.

Anyway at the risk of belabouring the point, Paine has done Australia no favours. The ultimate 50/50 is the toss, and he's won 4 out of 5 (the other being Leeds where he'd've batted anyway), and he's been ridiculously wasteful with DRS.
 
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Spark

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We have, just as we were in the WC final. Poor decision by Erasmus. Perhaps he didn't like being screamed at like that by Marsh.

Anyway at the risk of belabouring the point, Paine has done Australia no favours. The ultimate 50/50 is the toss, and he's won 4 out of 5 (the other being Leeds where he'd've batted anyway), and he's been ridiculously wasteful with DRS.
It's amazing how consistent his non-review errors have been. Every single one of them has been a straight ball that would have hit leg stump.
 

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
It's amazing how consistent his non-review errors have been. Every single one of them has been a straight ball that would have hit leg stump.
Given that you don't lose a review when it's umpire's call, you need to be a bit ballsier with them. That said, the umpiring has been so dreadful that 2 reviews really isn't a fair allocation.
 

Lillian Thomson

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The tone was set early in the First Test. Warner was caught leg side first ball and there was hardly an appeal. Then he was out LBW and didn’t review it when it was missing.
 

Spark

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Given that you don't lose a review when it's umpire's call, you need to be a bit ballsier with them. That said, the umpiring has been so dreadful that 2 reviews really isn't a fair allocation.
That's what I've been saying all series
 

morgieb

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Eh, no, I can't really understand being apprehensive about not reviewing that one tbh. That's just a plain old mistake.
Didn't see the non-wicket live so I'm not 100% talking about that one in particular, more referring to the series at large.

Not defending Paine's DRS game at all as you can tell by a lot of my other posts throughout the series, though I don't know if anyone would do any better (and it's only a small part of captaincy anyway, at least if we get competent umpires). I guess I'm just a bit dirty in how Wade and Warner were dismissed in this Test.
 

vcs

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There's less of an excuse to fail to review those compared to the ones where someone gets a tickle down the leg-side or something. It always looked umpire's call at worst. Have to review those.
 

Lillian Thomson

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If you grab DVD’s of matches from the 80’s and 90’s you’ll see all sorts of rubbish given out, LBW and caught down the leg side especially. The umpiring was far worse than this, there was just no scrutiny of the decisions.
 

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