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3rd Test at Headingley, Leeds

Burgey

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wpdavid said:
I'd happily only play one keeper. Probably Bairstow rather than Buttler. And Roy's in front of Denly for the push, surely.
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They need to make three key decisions and build the batting around it. First, they need to find a new opener and either shift Roy down the order or dump him altogether. It’s been a tough series for all batsmen except TPC but he and Bancroft just don’t look capable. I’d open with Denly.

Second, Root bats where he wants to, not where people want him to. If that means four or five, so be it.

Then they build their side around him.

Third. Stokes no higher than six imo.

So you’re looking for a three and a five. If sinply bring in the highest scoring defensive style opener in the CC and bat him (or Denly) three, the other one of them opens.

If they don’t stick with Roy, and tbh I wouldn’t, then your choice for number five is either Buttler, who I’d be tempted to punt as well because he’s a specialist batsman HIDING AT NUMBER SEVEN FFS WHAT EVEN KS THAT?!?!?! or I’d go back to Vince. Sure he hasn’t done it before, but he looks capable. And right now no one else does.

Anyway, these things aren’t easy to solve. If they were we’d both have better batting sides
 
Starfighter

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I'm guessing Root is going on the so far sustained theory that Archer's second spells are much, much better than his first spells so far.
 
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Starfighter said:
Cummins, say, doesn't seem to get the same amount from a similar length. Does need to be either fuller or moving less though, can't argue with that.
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Can't say it doesn't work for him though. You only really want to move it half a bad width after all.
 
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Burgey said:
They need to make three key decisions and build the batting around it. First, they need to find a new opener and either shift Roy down the order or dump him altogether. It’s been a tough series for all batsmen except TPC but he and Bancroft just don’t look capable. I’d open with Denly.

Second, Root bats where he wants to, not where people want him to. If that means four or five, so be it.

Then they build their side around him.

Third. Stokes no higher than six imo.

So you’re looking for a three and a five. If sinply bring in the highest scoring defensive style opener in the CC and bat him (or Denly) three, the other one of them opens.

If they don’t stick with Roy, and tbh I wouldn’t, then your choice for number five is either Buttler, who I’d be tempted to punt as well because he’s a specialist batsman HIDING AT NUMBER SEVEN FFS WHAT EVEN KS THAT?!?!?! or I’d go back to Vince. Sure he hasn’t done it before, but he looks capable. And right now no one else does.

Anyway, these things aren’t easy to solve. If they were we’d both have better batting sides
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This in particular can't be said enough. We went through the same **** with Clarke when he was in his pomp; don't fix what isn't broken (and sometimes the only thing that isn't broken) to appease the Ian Chappells of the world.
 
Burgey

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**** it must be so hard bowling in these situations. You know you should stick to your plans and bowl areas but you also can’t help and push that little bit harder for a wicket because you look up and see it’s effectively 1/140 odd.
 
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Burgey said:
They need to make three key decisions and build the batting around it. First, they need to find a new opener and either shift Roy down the order or dump him altogether. It’s been a tough series for all batsmen except TPC but he and Bancroft just don’t look capable. I’d open with Denly.

Second, Root bats where he wants to, not where people want him to. If that means four or five, so be it.

Then they build their side around him.

Third. Stokes no higher than six imo.

So you’re looking for a three and a five. If sinply bring in the highest scoring defensive style opener in the CC and bat him (or Denly) three, the other one of them opens.

If they don’t stick with Roy, and tbh I wouldn’t, then your choice for number five is either Buttler, who I’d be tempted to punt as well because he’s a specialist batsman HIDING AT NUMBER SEVEN FFS WHAT EVEN KS THAT?!?!?! or I’d go back to Vince. Sure he hasn’t done it before, but he looks capable. And right now no one else does.

Anyway, these things aren’t easy to solve. If they were we’d both have better batting sides
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Pope in to bat 5. Most of the guys we have picked in the last few years average mid 30s in first class cricket, sure Pope has not played that many games but he averages over 50. Would probably be in the team already if he had not been injured. You go 4.Root 5.Pope 6.Stokes then pick between Bairstow, Buttler and Foakes as a keeper at 7. Then try and find a top 3.
 
wpdavid

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Burgey said:
They need to make three key decisions and build the batting around it. First, they need to find a new opener and either shift Roy down the order or dump him altogether. It’s been a tough series for all batsmen except TPC but he and Bancroft just don’t look capable. I’d open with Denly.

Second, Root bats where he wants to, not where people want him to. If that means four or five, so be it.

Then they build their side around him.

Third. Stokes no higher than six imo.

So you’re looking for a three and a five. If sinply bring in the highest scoring defensive style opener in the CC and bat him (or Denly) three, the other one of them opens.

If they don’t stick with Roy, and tbh I wouldn’t, then your choice for number five is either Buttler, who I’d be tempted to punt as well because he’s a specialist batsman HIDING AT NUMBER SEVEN FFS WHAT EVEN KS THAT?!?!?! or I’d go back to Vince. Sure he hasn’t done it before, but he looks capable. And right now no one else does.

Anyway, these things aren’t easy to solve. If they were we’d both have better batting sides
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Yes, I agree with all of that. Probably Sibley to open with Burns, Denly at 3 and Northeast or Pope at 5. We still wouldn't be world beaters, and we'd still struggle against this attack, but at least there's a logical plan there.
 
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