1st Test, Edgbaston, Birmingham

[flibbertyjibber]

Siddle is just not looking threatening. Innocuous at those speeds.

Which is why I was delighted he was picked.

 

[Starfighter]

The umpires are there to umpire, not the players. Especially if reviews are going to be limited.

The crux of the issue. No, or more generous, limits on reviews, or automatic reviews, and that gets overturned. I've always thought three would be better than two.

It's a shame the ball tracking takes so long to be generated though.

 

[morgieb]

Messrs Boycott, Vaughan and Maxwell on TMS all advocating for a return to the best umpires available, regardless of nationality, in light of DRS.

Thoughts?

Depends. I think if you pick an English umpire you probably still have to pick an Australian one too, otherwise if they have an off day the media will be savage. But I agree in principle, especially given how Australia/England-centric the Elite Panel is.

It's the abundance of wrong decisions more than anything. If any of these were the only one (maybe two) wrong decisions given in a day I think people would be much more lenient on the umpires

Well yeah this is what's annoying me too. Almost farcial at this point.

 

[Starfighter]

ftfy

Just stfu. Only you think you're funny.

 

[NUFAN]

At least in the last man standing Cam Bancroft hasn't gone off concussed meaning his like for like replacement Joe Burns hasn't improved his batting average.

and Lyon hasn't taken a wicket, so its looking good.

 

[morgieb]

Siddle is just not looking threatening. Innocuous at those speeds.

Yeah he's not bowling poorly, but I think the decision should've been reversed once they saw the wicket. A pitch like the Ireland Test? Picking him would've been worth it. Here? Just not quite bowler-friendly enough.

Now watch him clean up in the 4th innings and make me taste it

Plus also he had a huge role in getting us to a competitive score.

 

[Starfighter]

Plus also he had a huge role in getting us to a competitive score.

I hate it when this sort of thing justifies poor selection. Happens often enough though.

 

[NUFAN]

Do you guys think Cummins has bowled better than Siddle today? I might be slightly one eyed..

 

[morgieb]

The crux of the issue. No, or more generous, limits on reviews, or automatic reviews, and that gets overturned. I've always thought three would be better than two.

It's a shame the ball tracking takes so long to be generated though.

I think that's why they did the 80 over thing originally, as the limits on reviews was just too tight. I don't mind the current system as I think too many reviews and it'll really slow the game down.

 

[Starfighter]

Do you guys think Cummins has bowled better than Siddle today? I might be slightly one eyed..

Siddle's been better. I'll admit that. Actually by a distance.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Do you guys think Cummins has bowled better than Siddle today? I might be slightly one eyed..

No

Is it a surprise that the WC players on the whole struggled last week for us and this week for you bar Smith who is a freak.

 

[Uppercut]

Yeah he's not bowling poorly, but I think the decision should've been reversed once they saw the wicket. A pitch like the Ireland Test? Picking him would've been worth it. Here? Just not quite bowler-friendly enough.

Now watch him clean up in the 4th innings and make me taste it

Plus also he had a huge role in getting us to a competitive score.

Surely you go for Hazlewood on that pitch?

 

[morgieb]

I hate it when this sort of thing justifies poor selection. Happens often enough though.

Oh I agree, but if we do manage to win the Test it's going to change things significantly.

Do you guys think Cummins has bowled better than Siddle today? I might be slightly one eyed..

No, but I know Cummins can bowl much better. This has really been Siddle's standard at Test level for a long time.

 

[NotMcKenzie]

Messrs Boycott, Vaughan and Maxwell on TMS all advocating for a return to the best umpires available, regardless of nationality, in light of DRS.

Thoughts?

IIRC, Wisden advocated this position in the 90s when neutral umpires started to become a thing—or at least a thing talked about.

 

[the big bambino]

Siddle is just not looking threatening. Innocuous at those speeds.

Only a few mph short of Pattinson. He's looked ordinary but I don't thinks its down to his speeds.

 

[91Jmay]

I know Hazlewood has been a bit **** recently but man he is so good, hard to not pick him.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Surely you go for Hazelwood on that pitch?

I'd have him on any pitch over here ahead of Siddle but they reckon he has been rubbish for ages so it is a fair call I guess.

 

[morgieb]

Surely you go for Hazlewood on that pitch?

If Hazlewood was actually in form there'd be no question. Problem is he's been kinda **** for a while and looked fairly rusty in the warmups. I can at least see why they thought Siddle might be better.

 

[Starfighter]

Surely you go for Hazlewood on that pitch?

Both Siddle and Hazlewood would be better than Cummins on that pitch. I'd think Siddle would be better atm because Haze has bowled terribly recently.

 

[NotMcKenzie]

David Gower undecided as to whether it is, '... the elite panel is...,' or, '... the elite panel are....'