1st Semi Final - India v New Zealand

[cnerd123]

Not sure I understand your point, except that you're pissed for some reason.

Burgey's posting in a nutshell tbh

 

[Amirfan]

i am interested in your thoughts on amirs ban.

What does that have to do with anything? A teenager made a mistake and got punished for it.

 

[DriveClub]

What does that have to do with anything? A teenager made a mistake and got punished for it.

By teenager his fake age right? He must be at least 2-3 years older than that

 

[Neil Young]

What does that have to do with anything?

You're bringing test results from the 1950s into the equation. I'd say nothing is off the table.

 

[Amirfan]

You're bringing test results from the 1950s into the equation. I'd say nothing is off the table.

I spoke about how Pakistan have usually had the better of New Zealand. Someone replied by using only results from 2011 onwards....in my sentence I didn't cherry pick time periods so every game ever between Pak and NZ is valid. However, talking about Amir's ban is simply an attempt to obfuscate.

 

[Neil Young]

I spoke about how Pakistan have usually had the better of New Zealand. Someone replied by using only results from 2011 onwards....in my sentence I didn't cherry pick time periods so every game ever between Pak and NZ is valid. However, talking about Amir's ban is simply an attempt to obfuscate.

Giving weight to more recent results in the relevant form of cricket not an entirely stupid thing to do. Bringing up a result from over 70 years ago (albeit indirectly) in a different form of cricket kind of is.

Sorry you guys got knocked out. But you have to turn up every time, and that you didn't against the West Indies ultimately cost you. You can harp on about the effect of one match on your NRR, but we all knew the rules coming in.

 

[Amirfan]

Giving weight to more recent results in the relevant form of cricket not an entirely stupid thing to do. Bringing up a result from over 70 years ago (albeit indirectly) in a different form of cricket kind of is.

Sorry you guys got knocked out. But you have to turn up every time, and that you didn't against the West Indies ultimately cost you. You can harp on about the effect of one match on your NRR, but we all knew the rules coming in.

I just said Pakistan have usually had the better of New Zealand. That clearly implies since inception. 2011 is a very arbitrary cut off date. How is 8 years ago recent? Why not 2006? Until their latest test series Pakistan hadnt lost to NZ in NZ for YEARS. In this particularly rivalry, Pakistan have always held the aces, New Zealand's performances Vs a weakened Pakistan over the last 2-3 years notwithstanding....and that is what happened at the WC as well. There is a reason Pakistan are World Champions and teams like England, SA and NZ are not

 

[unorthodoxcrick]

Hi everyone I'm new here and have a few thoughts on the Game between NZ and India. I really hope NZ can make a good game of it and ive put some real thought into the tactics for each team. I made a video covering every aspect of the game and would like to know if you agree or have any other thoughts around the game. Let me know what you think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJiDWRyTfVw&t=37s

 

[cnerd123]

Lmao

 

[Neil Young]

There is a reason Pakistan are World Champions and teams like England, SA and NZ are not

And, out of curiosity, that reason is what?

But, yeah, I'd agree you guys have definitely had the better of NZ down the years. Maybe not the recent ones, though, which was kind of the previous poster's point.

 

[Amirfan]

And, out of curiosity, that reason is what?

But, yeah, I'd agree you guys have definitely had the better of NZ down the years. Maybe not the recent ones, though, which was kind of the previous poster's point.

England, SA and NZ lack the X factor that is needed to win big tournaments. You need guys like Pointing, Gilchrist, Imran, Inzamam, Viv. England this here have a shot if they can somehow get past Australia.

 

[Neil Young]

England, SA and NZ lack the X factor that is needed to win big tournaments. You need guys like Pointing, Gilchrist, Imran, Inzamam, Viv. England this here have a shot if they can somehow get past Australia.

Fair enough; you definitely do need match-winners in your side to win the big games. Arguably Pakistan had very few or none this year, hence their early bath.

 

[Amirfan]

Fair enough; you definitely do need match-winners in your side to win the big games. Arguably Pakistan had very few or none this year, hence their early bath.

Fair enough although I still think we were screwed over by extenuating circumstances.

 

[Neil Young]

Fair enough although I still think we were screwed over by extenuating circumstances.

Oh, you definitely weren't screwed over, Amir. You may have come off worst from the no results, but you weren't completely f**ked over on the whole. The reason Pakistan are out is Pakistan being typically and enigmatically Pakistan. Capable of some good wins and some brutal losses. Win the game v the Windies (or simply don't get belted so badly) and you're in. Only madness lies the way of guessing the results of the two abandoned games to claim you were 'screwed over'. Less of the self-pity!

 

[h_hurricane]

This is just absolute bullshit. You’re an India supporter aren’t you?

Can certainly tell you that most indian supporters here would not feel sad if we do not win it a 3rd time. After all, we have experienced it twice. But Australia winning it a 6th time would be such a bitter pill to swallow, very bitter.

Let us have Eng or NZ win it once. Both teams have tried so hard over the last 4 decades and either of them would be deserving winners.

 

[Amirfan]

Can certainly tell you that most indian supporters here would not feel sad if we do not win it a 3rd time. After all, we have experienced it twice. But Australia winning it a 6th time would be such a bitter pill to swallow, very bitter.

Let us have Eng or NZ win it once. Both teams have tried so hard over the last 4 decades and either of them would be deserving winners.

England are NZ are the most undeserving of the 4 semi finalists by far. I hope Aus win their 6th.

 

[vcs]

Australia are undeserving because they've pulled an even more extreme version of their usual trick of dicking around for years, before suddenly getting their **** together in a World Cup year

NZ don't deserve it because they've lost 3 on the bounce and only beaten minnows

England don't deserve it because no one likes FTBs

Just hand it over to India and be done with it.

 

[Arachnodouche]

Can certainly tell you that most indian supporters here would not feel sad if we do not win it a 3rd time. After all, we have experienced it twice. But Australia winning it a 6th time would be such a bitter pill to swallow, very bitter.

Let us have Eng or NZ win it once. Both teams have tried so hard over the last 4 decades and either of them would be deserving winners.

Speak for yourself. I didn't root for the team just to see them bend over at the final hurdle. I want us to win the whole damn thing.

 

[Arachnodouche]

England are NZ are the most undeserving of the 4 semi finalists by far. I hope Aus win their 6th.

How the heck are Eng undeserving? So only **** rearguards in tournaments count? Eng beat two other semi finalists to make the cut. They own that no. 3 position.

 

[Amirfan]

How the heck are Eng undeserving? So only **** rearguards in tournaments count? Eng beat two other semi finalists to make the cut. They own that no. 3 position.

Sorry I didn't mean it in terms of England's results. But something about how England "magically" got flat decks in ICC tournaments after Bairstow whinged and won 2 tosses in must win games doesn't sit right with me. Even Kohli commented about how the boundary dimensions seemed to have changed presumably to negate Kuldeep and Chahal.