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Who do you have pegged for your 4 semi finalists?

veganbob

U19 Captain
taylor is nzs best odi batsman ever and it's not close. kane scores 70s then finds a brand new way to throw it away, taylor scores 100s.

kane is quality and in tests he's nzs best ever, but if i had to pick one for an odi team it's definitely taylor and that's not my bias talking.
Guptill is our best odi batsman ever.
Great record and has a far better world cup record than Taylor.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Nah, Guptill is good, but he's been a bit of a minnow basher in the past couple of years. Taylor's presence in the team has been genuinely critical to our competitiveness against the top sides. Just look when England toured here in 2018, the 3 games where Taylor was fit we won 2-1, the 2 games where he was out we lost 0-2.
 

Zinzan

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Nah, Guptill is good, but he's been a bit of a minnow basher in the past couple of years. Taylor's presence in the team has been genuinely critical to our competitiveness against the top sides. Just look when England toured here in 2018, the 3 games where Taylor was fit we won 2-1, the 2 games where he was out we lost 0-2.
Not disagreeing with your overall premise, but this is a tiny sample to base that point on :p
 

ankitj

Hall of Fame Member
Half the league games are done. A lot is possible. BD, SA, Pak all can challenge NZ for semi berth.
 

James90

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1. India
2. England
3. Australia
4. New Zealand
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5. Bangladesh
6. Pakistan
7. West Indies
8. South Africa
9. Afghanistan
10. Sri Lanka
In hindsight, 9 and 10 are in the wrong order.

South Africa and Pakistan will finish 6th and 8th depending on who wins when they play each other.

I'm otherwise looking in decent shape.
 

Burgey

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Half the league games are done. A lot is possible. BD, SA, Pak all can challenge NZ for semi berth.
I'd have thought NZ is pretty safe tbh. They've had a NR against India already, and they're on more points than each of the other two current top four sides they have to play.

Of the current top four, England and Australia are in the most danger, purely because they've already dropped one game and have to play each other plus NZ. England also has to play India, so once they lose to them, Australia and NZ they'll probably miss out. And it'll be hilarious when they do, as the likes of Botham cry into their corn flakes about how it's all so unfair because England has a good NRR and has made a lot of big scores for the preceding three years which don't count for anything,
 

Spark

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I only really see Bangladesh as plausible challengers to the current top 4 tbh. The max number of points I can see them getting is 11, which means that Australia probably needs 2/4 and England 3/5 to guarantee a spot. Of course it's pretty much non-negotiable that Bangladesh beats Australia for this to be even in play, otherwise it's just shuffling chairs amongst the regulars tbh. They're playing good cricket though.
 

vcs

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Depressingly, it looks like we're set for 2 weeks of largely dead rubbers. Not the fault of the format, but due to 4 teams being comfortably better than the others, and the order in which the fixtures have played out.

I hope I haven't jinxed India, they can't afford to slip up against Afghanistan/Bangladesh/WI with the other 3 racking up wins consistently.
 

ankitj

Hall of Fame Member
Pakistan might still put up a challenge for a semi final spot. If they win all their remaining 4 games (v SA, NZ, AFG, BD) they will have 11 points. But then NZ will have to lose all but one of their games (v WI, Pak, Aus, Eng). NRR can knock NZ out in that case.

Ind, Aus, Eng have got games against weaker teams so they must be safer.
 

vcs

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Pakistan's NRR is ****, though. They lost in about 15 overs to WI and by a big margin to India too.

NZ got big wins against Afghanistan and Sri Lanka. Very unlikely Pakistan can overturn that deficit.
 

ankitj

Hall of Fame Member
Pakistan can win big against BD and Afg. Small chance but only upset that has slightest possibility. WI, SL and SA have no chance.
 

srbhkshk

International Captain
Pakistan can win big against BD and Afg. Small chance but only upset that has slightest possibility. WI, SL and SA have no chance.
Against Afg maybe, I don't think they are gonna win by a big margin against BD if at all.
 

vcs

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Even the rain-affected washouts haven't disadvantaged the front-runners. India-NZ would have been content to take a point and move on to beating the weaker teams. Both teams getting a point in the Pak-SL, WI-SA, SL-Bangladesh matches was of no benefit to anyone.
 

cnerd123

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Aus have to play Eng, NZ and SA next

BD have India, Afgh and Pak

If Aus lose all 3 and BD win all 3, BD make the semis

BD are also in with a shot if India lose everything here on in, as unlikely as that is.

SL need to win everything here on in to be in with a shot of qualifying too.

No real other possibilities for the Semis outside of that it seems.
 

aussie tragic

International Captain
Aus have to play Eng, NZ and SA next

BD have India, Afgh and Pak

If Aus lose all 3 and BD win all 3, BD make the semis
or, with NZ having to play WI, Pak, Aus, Eng, if they lose all 4 and BD win all 3 then Aus and BD make the SF ;)


BD are not beating India though....
 

Burgey

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England have SL, India, Australia, NZ. Haven't played a single top four side yet They could lose 3 of those four and in doing so give Bangladesh a shot. They're also more likely to do so, because they're England and it's a WC.
 

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