The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[trundler]

Assuming a minimum 10 test requirement.

I'd like Procter in there but that'd be extremely harsh on one of the 3 pacers. Or you could go full SA and stick in another AR in there. With 6 FC tons in a row Procter is definitely a #6 and Faulkner with a pre War average of 40 can bat 5.

 

[Bolo]

Richards
Smith
RGD Pollock
Kallis
Dudley Nourse
AB+
Faulkner
Procter*
Tayfield
Steyn
Donald

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Amla can crack into the B team

 

[a massive zebra]

Barry Richards
Graeme Smith *
Jacques Kallis (6)
Graeme Pollock
Dudley Nourse
AB de Villiers +
Aubrey Faulkner (5)
Mike Proctor (3)
Shaun Pollock (4)
Dale Steyn (1)
Alan Donald (2)

 

[Bolo]

Barry Richards
Graeme Smith *
Jacques Kallis (6)
Graeme Pollock
Dudley Nourse
AB de Villiers +
Aubrey Faulkner (5)
Mike Proctor (3)
Shaun Pollock (4)
Dale Steyn (1)
Alan Donald (2)

How much do you trust procter as a spinner? I haven't got that much faith in Faulkner

 

[trundler]

Richards
Smith
RGD Pollock
Kallis
Dudley Nourse
AB+
Faulkner
Procter*
Tayfield
Steyn
Donald

The most South African team possible.

Adcock not even getting a mention is proof of how ridiculously stacked SA's pace resources have been.

 

[Red]

Richards
Smith
Kallis
G.Pollock
DeVilliers+
Faulkner
Procter
S.Pollock/Tayfield
Steyn
Donald

 

[Slifer]

All-time South Africa Test XI

GC Smith (c)
B Mitchell
JH Kallis
RG Pollock
AB de Villiers
AD Nourse
MV Boucher (wk)
HJ Tayfield
DW Steyn
KJ Rabada
AA Donald

Pollock and Rabada is the big debating point for me. Pollock of course would strengthen the tail but he was a new-ball bowler, whereas Rabada is more penetrative coming on at first change.

As impressive as Rabada has been, his stats imo are heavily skewed towards home conditions. Once he corrects that, which I'm sure he will then he can justify being in an rsa atg team. For now ...nope

 

[Bolo]

Richards
Smith
Kallis
G.Pollock
DeVilliers+
Faulkner
Procter
S.Pollock/Tayfield
Steyn
Donald

If we are allowing horses for courses selections, I'd vary the bowlers by more than just pollock/tayfield. Only kallis and procter are locks for me. Philander, Goddard and maybe a couple of others would get in depending on conditions

 

[Red]

Philander on some decks, maybe, but I find it hard to see Goddard forcing his way into a line up that could potentially include any combo of Procter, Kallis and S.Pollock, plus Faulkner as a frontline bowler who could also bat top 6.

 

[harsh.ag]

Well, you only have 10 players in there, so yeah there's room for Goddard

 

[Red]

Forgot Nourse

 

[Bolo]

Philander on some decks, maybe, but I find it hard to see Goddard forcing his way into a line up that could potentially include any combo of Procter, Kallis and S.Pollock, plus Faulkner as a frontline bowler who could also bat top 6.

Goddard offers a lot with the bat and variety with the ball. I'd want him to bowl if it was a dukes + movement in the air but nothing off the wicket. Donald Goddard Procter kallis + ? would be great in some English conditions

 

[ankitj]

My SA XI today:

Barry Richards
Bruce Mitchell
Jacques Kallis
Graeme Pollock
AB de Villiers
Dudley Nourse
Denis Lindsay +
Shaun Pollock *
Hugh Tayfield
Dale Steyn
Allan Donald

 

[harsh.ag]

ODI XI

Ricky Ponting
Sachin Tendulkar
Virat Kohli
Viv Richards
AB de Villiers
Adam Gilchrist +
Sanath Jayasuriya
Wasim Akram
Joel Garner
Glenn McGrath
Muttiah Muralitharan

Sanath, Sachin, and Viv to bowl a minimum of 10 overs combined (the way 5th bowlers should be in ODIs)

 

[a massive zebra]

Dudley Course

Never heard of him.

 

[stephen]

ODI XI

Ricky Ponting
Sachin Tendulkar
Virat Kohli
Viv Richards
AB de Villiers
Adam Gilchrist +
Sanath Jayasuriya
Wasim Akram
Joel Garner
Glenn McGrath
Muttiah Muralitharan

Sanath, Sachin, and Viv to bowl a minimum of 10 overs combined (the way 5th bowlers should be in ODIs)

Fairly good side that. Would have loved to see Ponting open a bit more in his career but it served Australia better to have him punish the bowlers for getting Gilchrist, Waugh or Hayden out.

 

[CricAddict]

ODI XI

Ricky Ponting
Sachin Tendulkar
Virat Kohli
Viv Richards
AB de Villiers
Adam Gilchrist +
Sanath Jayasuriya
Wasim Akram
Joel Garner
Glenn McGrath
Muttiah Muralitharan

Sanath, Sachin, and Viv to bowl a minimum of 10 overs combined (the way 5th bowlers should be in ODIs)

Great team. I will go with this as well with just one change. Gilchrist opening and Ponting at 5. Gives a left-right opening combination as well as an explosive option.

 

[Red]

Jayasuriya
Tendulkar
Kohli
Richards
DeVilliers
Dhoni +
Kapil
Wasim
Garner
Murali
McGrath

 

[Andy1993]

MY ALL TIME ODI XI

1.Sanath Jayasuria
2.Adam Gilchrist (wk)
3.Virat Kohli (c)
4.Viv Richards
5.Jacques Kallis
6.Michael Bevan
7.Kapil Dev
8.Wasim Akram
9.Shaun Pollock
10.Murali
11.Waqar Younis