Slifer
International Captain
Liked this idea. Wi intimidators xi
Gayle
Greenidge
Viv*
Lara
Lloyd
Sobers
Walcott+
Marshall
Clarke
Gilchrist
Croft
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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread
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Gayle
Greenidge
Viv*
Lara
Lloyd
Sobers
Walcott+
Marshall
Clarke
Gilchrist
Croft
GoodAreasShane
Cricketer Of The Year
Probably fair enough. The Don was always a pretty dour individual.
Red
The normal awards that everyone else has
Bradman and Miller just couldn't see eye to eye. Miller liked cricket but he couldn't really give af about being uber competitive at times.
http://https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-dons-war-20120922-26dza.html
http://https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-dons-war-20120922-26dza.html
Days of Grace
International Captain
All-time South Africa Test XI
GC Smith (c)
B Mitchell
JH Kallis
RG Pollock
AB de Villiers
AD Nourse
MV Boucher (wk)
HJ Tayfield
DW Steyn
KJ Rabada
AA Donald
Pollock and Rabada is the big debating point for me. Pollock of course would strengthen the tail but he was a new-ball bowler, whereas Rabada is more penetrative coming on at first change.
GC Smith (c)
B Mitchell
JH Kallis
RG Pollock
AB de Villiers
AD Nourse
MV Boucher (wk)
HJ Tayfield
DW Steyn
KJ Rabada
AA Donald
Pollock and Rabada is the big debating point for me. Pollock of course would strengthen the tail but he was a new-ball bowler, whereas Rabada is more penetrative coming on at first change.
Days of Grace
International Captain
176 wickets already, though.
Who would you rather have at first change after Steyn or Donald? Pollock was at his most effective with the new ball.
stephen
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Didn't Donald bowl first change? Or was that just ODIs?
morgieb
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Yeah that was mostly ODI's.
trundler
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What Holding did to England should make him the first pick.
Rabadas career has lasted by time only as long as Procter's. Procter had an extra decade of top performance as well, if not at the test level. Plus the batting. Can't see how to get rabada in.
Your change bowler argument makes sense. Probably open with Pollock a lot of the time. If the ball isnt swinging he's the best of the three anyway. Bowling to lefties he's better than Steyn. Steyn and donald both needed their radars off a fairly high proportion of the time. Would give him the new ball pretty often irrespective of the change issue.
Your change bowler argument makes sense. Probably open with Pollock a lot of the time. If the ball isnt swinging he's the best of the three anyway. Bowling to lefties he's better than Steyn. Steyn and donald both needed their radars off a fairly high proportion of the time. Would give him the new ball pretty often irrespective of the change issue.
ankitj
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SA XI is generally quite hard. So many contenders who can still push for a place: Faulkner, Procter, Philander, B. Richards, Rice etc.
OverratedSanity
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Sad to see how Amla's painful decline has meant he's not quite in the conversation for that xi, a few years ago I was of the opinion that up to that point he'd had a superior career to de villiers.
vcs
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Peak Amla (2010-2013) was probably the best Test batsman across the world in all conditions and vs. a variety of opposition. Played a number of series defining knocks, more so than Kallis, Smith and De Villiers in that period. His peak didn't last long enough unfortunately but it was a great one.
Wicketkeeper as well. There are probably 5 guys with an almost equal shout.
h_hurricane
International Vice-Captain
A bit sad to see Pollock miss out from ATG SA XIs. A bowling average of 23 and batting average of 32 is immense. He should easily get in ahead of at least Rabada for now. Peak Pollock was averaging 20 with the ball after 300 scalps.
He is a greater cricketer than Steyn and Donald for me.
He is a greater cricketer than Steyn and Donald for me.
Can swap donald/steyn + a bat for Pollock + Procter/Faulkner/Goddard without hurting the batting. Adds a ton of variety to the bowling