Joe Root: Nothing wrong with being gay

[jimmy101]

I wonder if 'hetero-guilt' is a thing yet.

 

[mr_mister]

I'm surprised nobody raised the fact Gabriel was a minority and Root wasn't. If this happened in America I'm sure someone would mention that

 

[TheJediBrah]

I'm surprised nobody raised the fact Gabriel was a minority and Root wasn't. If this happened in America I'm sure someone would mention that

If this was America Root would've been made the villain somehow

 

[mr_mister]

If this was America Root would've been made the villain somehow

'black man punished after insulting white man'

 

[Borges]

Poe's law. I assumed this was a play on words, but your follow up post confused me. Was this intentional?

Yes.
To me, a person is 'awful' only if the actions or words of that person can be perceived as awful; only if that person's influence on the world is actually awful.
Homophobia is itself a product of judging people without evidence; blindly assuming that some people are worse than others, even if one hasn't seen them do anything that is worse.

Always been, and always will be, strongly opposed to thought police.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Yes.
To me, a person is 'awful' only if the actions or words of that person can be perceived as awful; only if that person's influence on the world is actually awful.
Homophobia is itself a product of judging people without evidence; blindly assuming that some people are worse than others, even if one hasn't seen them do anything that is worse.

Always been, and always will be, strongly opposed to thought police.

would you say there's nothing wrong with a paedophile if they don't hurt anyone, directly or indirectly?

 

[mr_mister]

would you say there's nothing wrong with a paedophile if they don't hurt anyone, directly or indirectly?

I think there's definitely a big difference between an offending and non offending paedophile. Nobody chooses to be attracted to kids, it's a curse. Once they cross the line and create a victim, it's a problem

 

[ankitj]

'Turn up the stump mics and expose sledgers' - Moeen Ali | ESPNcricinfo.com

Interesting sledger is a pain for Moeen Ali too, not just CWers.

 

[the big bambino]

I think there's definitely a big difference between an offending and non offending paedophile. Nobody chooses to be attracted to kids, it's a curse. Once they cross the line and create a victim, it's a problem

Yet I hear they are most intransigent to treatment. Not so much a curse but a belligerent belief they are not evil but the wronged party.

 

[MrPrez]

Yet I hear they are most intransigent to treatment. Not so much a curse but a belligerent belief they are not evil but the wronged party.

That's a pretty broad statement to make.

 

[Arachnodouche]

Seems like white players are following the Do Unto Them Before They Do Unto Us What We've Forever Been Doing Unto Them dictum. No law against sodomy in this land until the British came along. Anyway, isn't this the chap who got clocked over mocking Amla's beard not so long ago? #believeDavidWarner

 

[Daemon]

wtf..

 

[sledger]

The whole issue has nothing to do with thought policing. I said that someone harbouring dire views but not acting on them is still unacceptable, but not that they should be punished for this.

I.e. Is it ok for someone to harbour homophobic or racist preferences or views? No, this is a fundamentally wrong and bad thing to do, and such behaviours should be called out and shamed. Should, however, they be punished by the law for their outlooks if they do not act on them? No, certainly not.

 

[slippy888]

Gabriel will be a celebrity now

 

[sledger]

Quick slip, make a comparison thread involving him.

 

[mr_mister]

Yet I hear they are most intransigent to treatment. Not so much a curse but a belligerent belief they are not evil but the wronged party.

What's the treatment? Chemical castration or some clockwork orange ****?

 

[Beamer]

Lots of coverage in the Caribbean at the moment on this, people aren't happy as they don't think Gabriel's comments were homophobic. I must say I agree.

Dillon: Gabriel’s ban ‘an injustice’
Wallace: Crowe throws the book at Gabriel

 

[sledger]

They were a slur based on ***uality, particularly homosexuality. There is no way they were not homophobic.

That is not to say Gabriel is homophobic, he may well not be. But his words clearly were.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Gabriel will be a celebrity now

Next up: Dancing with the Stars

 

[sledger]

Merve Dillon:

"Why we chastising as if Shannon did something wrong? If that is the comment, I don't see anything wrong with what Shannon said. It was blown out of proportion."

And therein lies the problem.