Which Indian team do you think will win in a 5 test series ?

[Burgey]

Spark

No. That’s genuinely the extent of my interest in India.

 

[Burgey]

I don't think that the physical danger should be romanticised under the guise of masculinity, mind you. Not wearing a helmet is ****ing stupid, not brave. And bowling with Intent to injure is cowardice IMO. Fast bowling is great because it is the most testing and entertaining.

And one of the factors which makes it most testing is....?

 

[Burgey]

Off spin is death by natural selection.

It’s death by boredom. Like *****’s posts.

 

[Red]

Good point that he had a bit of everything. I come across a lot of cricket forums and old timers who claim Marshall was as fast as Akhtar or bowled at 150 kmph, I don't think so. He was brisk without being express fast and also had very diverse skills which made him the best.

No, Marshall was definitely express pace. Definitely

 

[trundler]

It’s death by boredom. Like *****’s posts.

Well the speed, duh. Less reaction time. Sudden movement that's hard to adjust to etc. All I'm saying is there's no glory in martyrdom.

 

[Kirkut]

No, Marshall was definitely express pace. Definitely

I'd say he looked as quick as Josh Hazlewood, pacy without being express.

 

[jimmy101]

Looks can be deceiving. Bumrah a good example of this.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Swervin' Mervyn was a classic example, such a lumbering unathletic approach but he could really crank things up on his day

 

[Burgey]

I'd say he looked as quick as Josh Hazlewood, pacy without being express.

Nah, he was regarded as the quickest bowler in the world for a while before Pat Paterson came along. He was certainly very quick early on, and very skiddy too. Had a wicked bouncer - ask Mike Gatting's nose.

 

[Kirkut]

Nah, he was regarded as the quickest bowler in the world for a while before Pat Paterson came along. He was certainly very quick early on, and very skiddy too. Had a wicked bouncer - ask Mike Gatting's nose.

They were quick but not express. WI had no spinners to bowl 20-30 overs each and balance the workload of fast bowlers, so the quicks had to use their energies efficiently instead of bowling flat out fast like Shoaib Akhtar or Lenny Pascoe. That's why I compared his pace with Hazlewood, and no international batsman will ever tell you that Hazlewood is slow.

 

[Burgey]

Ok mate. You run with that, I'll stick with both having watched him when he first toured here through to his retirement, and with the views of those who played with and against him.

The WI quicks in that era didn't need a spinner to bowl 20-30 overs each because, firstly, they usually got teams out without having to worry about a spinner, and secondly there were no over rate penalties in play at that time which have led to the emasculation of the game in making playing a spinner almost always a necessity, so they'd bowl 65-75 overs a day and be done with it.

 

[Senile Sentry]

No. That’s genuinely the extent of my interest in India.

Matters a lot!

 

[Burgey]

It must, in that you commented on it.

 

[trundler]

Yeah kirkut seems to just ignore the fact he could shatter a ****ing nose.

 

[Arachnodouche]

Marshall looked like he could do virtually anything he wanted to with the ball. Like Akram at his peak, except Marshall had the better returns of obv.

 

[OverratedSanity]

They were quick but not express. WI had no spinners to bowl 20-30 overs each and balance the workload of fast bowlers, so the quicks had to use their energies efficiently instead of bowling flat out fast like Shoaib Akhtar or Lenny Pascoe. That's why I compared his pace with Hazlewood, and no international batsman will ever tell you that Hazlewood is slow.

They didn't really manage their workloads well though. Holding got injured very often.

 

[Senile Sentry]

It must, in that you commented on it.

Ironical given your trolling in all India threads.

 

[h_hurricane]

They didn't really manage their workloads well though. Holding got injured very often.

So he was a frequently dysfunctional Rolls-Royce. Will love to have him in whatever condition he was though.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

The West Indies quicks all certainly were genuinely quick, even someone like Garner, who was said to be a touch slower than the rest, could still generate some real pace and hostility on occasion

 

[jimmy101]

The West Indies quicks all certainly were genuinely quick, even someone like Garner, who was said to be a touch slower than the rest, could still generate some real pace and hostility on occasion

Plus Garner's deliveries would more often than not spit up off the pitch in a nasty way due to his freakish height.