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Long term bets..
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Glad to see my prediction has a chance of coming through still.
flibbertyjibber
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Not a chance unless he is still playing at 42+
GoodAreasShane
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Sounds like a deal
Kohli to retire by 35, between 10,500 - 11,000 test runs. Average between 55-57
Williamson - Retires at about 38. 11,500 - 12,000. Between 50 and 52
Smith - retires at 37 but to average just less than 50 in the second half of his career. 13,000 - 13,500 between 56 and 58.
Root - To retire at 36, having played more test cricket than Williamson in this period. To finish with the most runs but the marginally worst average. 14,000 - 14,500 runs averaging between 49-51
Williamson - Retires at about 38. 11,500 - 12,000. Between 50 and 52
Smith - retires at 37 but to average just less than 50 in the second half of his career. 13,000 - 13,500 between 56 and 58.
Root - To retire at 36, having played more test cricket than Williamson in this period. To finish with the most runs but the marginally worst average. 14,000 - 14,500 runs averaging between 49-51
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Athlai
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I think it's pretty unlikely Williamson finishes with an average of 51-52 at this point. He is only just entering his prime years and currently averages 51.56. He's been averaging 60 odd for his last 50 Tests and doesn't seem likely to stop anytime soon.
Reckon he will end up averaging around 54/55
Reckon he will end up averaging around 54/55
Daemon
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Mid career slump plus end career slump have claimed many averages
Athlai
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He’s going to the ****ing moon.
M0rphin3
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Nah, feel a few rough patches gonna bring that around the 51ish mark IMO, would love to be proven wrong tho
Coronis
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Nah he’ll pick up right where he left off.
OverratedSanity
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He left off flopping in SA so I hope you're right.
Thing is, its too rare for a player to have a 10+ years career and not have a slump at some point; usually at the end. His average being roughly the same takes into account a continuing rise of average, but then a bit of a slump at one point. But maybe since NZ play less test cricket than the other 3 nations he might be able to have more consistency, and whenever he hits bad form it might not be so exploited
On the other hand, I'm not sure Kohli will last long enough for age to make his average any worse. I'm of the opinion that he'll tire himself out playing all three formats and captaining them all. Known shoulder injury and is himself aware that he'll probably have a shorter career than others. Might benefit his legacy though if he retires at near enough his best
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It's only fitting that people hang on to the one relatively poor series. Same happened to his only superior - Bradman and Bodyline. When failure is scarce it sticks out.
/s
Athlai
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I just spent an hour replying to this with stats of the best bats in history comparing their final average with their average at 28. And then my Chrome died and swallowed it.
It was these players and this is how much their averages went up or down
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DG Bradman*(AUS) 2.88
H Sutcliffe*(ENG) N/A
KF Barrington*(ENG) 13.23
ED Weekes*(WI) -5.86
WR Hammond*(ENG) -1.12
GS Sobers*(WI) 1.46
KC Sangakkara*(SL) 8.47
JB Hobbs*(ENG) 8.85
L Hutton*(ENG) -10.58
JH Kallis*(ICC/SA) 1.62
GS Chappell*(AUS) -0.43
SR Tendulkar*(INDIA) -4.94
BC Lara*(ICC/WI) -2.23
Javed Miandad*(PAK) -2.66
R Dravid*(ICC/INDIA) 1.62
Mohammad Yousuf*(PAK) 4.38
Younis Khan*(PAK) 3.66
RT Ponting*(AUS) -2.21
A Flower*(ZIM) 9.98
MEK Hussey*(AUS) N/A
S Chanderpaul*(WI) 7.17
SM Gavaskar*(INDIA) 17.16
SR Waugh*(AUS) 7.38
ML Hayden*(AUS) 29.31
AB de Villiers*(SA) 0.72
AR Border*(AUS) -1.03
IVA Richards*(WI) -9.73
DCS Compton*(ENG) -2.84Athlai
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Oh wait it saved it!
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Overall figures
Player Inns NO Runs Avg
DG Bradman*(AUS) 80 10 6996 99.94
H Sutcliffe*(ENG) 84 9 4555 60.73
KF Barrington*(ENG) 131 15 6806 58.67
ED Weekes*(WI) 81 5 4455 58.61
WR Hammond*(ENG) 140 16 7249 58.45
GS Sobers*(WI) 160 21 8032 57.78
KC Sangakkara*(SL) 233 17 12400 57.40
JB Hobbs*(ENG) 102 7 5410 56.94
L Hutton*(ENG) 138 15 6971 56.67
JH Kallis*(ICC/SA) 280 40 13289 55.37
GS Chappell*(AUS) 151 19 7110 53.86
SR Tendulkar*(INDIA) 329 33 15921 53.78
BC Lara*(ICC/WI) 232 6 11953 52.88
Javed Miandad*(PAK) 189 21 8832 52.57
R Dravid*(ICC/INDIA) 286 32 13288 52.31
Mohammad Yousuf*(PAK) 156 12 7530 52.29
Younis Khan*(PAK) 213 19 10099 52.05
RT Ponting*(AUS) 287 29 13378 51.85
A Flower*(ZIM) 112 19 4794 51.54
MEK Hussey*(AUS) 137 16 6235 51.52
S Chanderpaul*(WI) 280 49 11867 51.37
SM Gavaskar*(INDIA) 214 16 10122 51.12
SR Waugh*(AUS) 260 46 10927 51.06
ML Hayden*(AUS) 184 14 8625 50.73
AB de Villiers*(SA) 191 18 8765 50.66
AR Border*(AUS) 265 44 11174 50.56
IVA Richards*(WI) 182 12 8540 50.23
DCS Compton*(ENG) 131 15 5807 50.06
Total of the Greats 5228 575 251130 53.97
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At 28
Player Inns NO RunsDescending Ave
DG Bradman*(AUS) 51 3 4659 97.06
H Sutcliffe*(ENG)
KF Barrington 9 0 409 45.44
ED Weekes*(WI) 44 2 2708 64.47
WR Hammond*(ENG) 51 6 2681 59.57
GS Sobers*(WI) 89 10 4450 56.32
KC Sangakkara*(SL) 103 5 4796 48.93
JB Hobbs*(ENG) 25 3 1058 48.09
L Hutton*(ENG) 21 1 1345 67.25
JH Kallis*(SA) 133 22 5967 53.75
GS Chappell*(AUS) 87 13 4018 54.29
SR Tendulkar*(INDIA) 149 15 7869 58.72
BC Lara*(WI) 47 2 2480 55.11
Javed Miandad*(PAK) 115 17 5413 55.23
R Dravid*(INDIA) 45 3 2129 50.69
Mohammad Yousuf*(PAK) 73 6 3210 47.91
Younis Khan*(PAK) 89 5 4065 48.39
RT Ponting*(AUS) 115 14 5461 54.06
A Flower 37 5 1330 41.56
MEK Hussey*(AUS)
S Chanderpaul*(WI) 109 15 4155 44.20
SM Gavaskar*(INDIA) 30 1 985 33.96
SR Waugh*(AUS) 98 18 3495 43.68
ML Hayden*(AUS) 14 0 300 21.42
AB de Villiers*(SA) 141 16 6243 49.94
AR Border*(AUS) 107 20 4489 51.59
IVA Richards*(WI) 64 3 3658 59.96
DCS Compton*(ENG) 27 6 1111 52.90
Total at 28 1873 211 88484 53.24
TheJediBrah
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Damn fine work
I wonder if the trend would change if we used 30 instead of 28 as the mid-career stat. I feel like at 28 most players have probably not reached their best. (I know that's not really relevant and why 28 was chosen, just putting it out there)
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Athlai
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Yeah I haven't checked the numbers but I feel like at age 30 that .73 gap would've closed by a solid margin.
flibbertyjibber
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What, lying to the world?