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*Official* Pakistan v New Zealand in the UAE 2018

Spikey

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he's kiwi tbf. played for otago, moved to oz because he was clearly on drugs then saw the light and returned to nz to cop it from that flem274 moron for being the subject of a random larsen pick

lol 3fer
I can't remember it all off the top of my head but born in NZ, family moved to Sydney when he was ~10~ (He went to a notable private school in the Eastern Suburbs so maybe the family moved for big job reasons), moved back to NZ for school and cricket, and I think moved back to Sydney after he sorta figured cricket wasn't gonna happen for him, contiuned playing Grade for years, got a NSW call-up when Lyon was playing tests and SOK was probably suspended or injured, always did well, and was contracted for NSW for this season when it seems NZ made a pitch to him and he decided to give it a shot (which is why I was confused he was 5th in line for this tour)
 

BeeGee

International Captain
Pakistan imploding.

I was hoping for two wickets this session. ****ing awesome.
 
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NZTailender

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ha **** me i really would not have guessed these two spinners would legit do this well. Ajaz didn't seem to be emulating his first test skillz and wasn't sure about somerville even after a decent first innings dig but **** me this is glorious
 

Moss

International Captain
Wow et tu, Imam? Pakistan are spooked here.

Just glorious this. Couldn't go more perfectly according to script.
 

flibbertyjibber

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Well, that session was even better than my best-case scenario.
You'd have hoped to get 2 wickets and make it a difficult nervy lunch break but that is beyond what anyone could have hoped for. Just need to keep calm heads and claim a famous series win.
 

Flem274*

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I can't remember it all off the top of my head but born in NZ, family moved to Sydney when he was ~10~ (He went to a notable private school in the Eastern Suburbs so maybe the family moved for big job reasons), moved back to NZ for school and cricket, and I think moved back to Sydney after he sorta figured cricket wasn't gonna happen for him, contiuned playing Grade for years, got a NSW call-up when Lyon was playing tests and SOK was probably suspended or injured, always did well, and was contracted for NSW for this season when it seems NZ made a pitch to him and he decided to give it a shot (which is why I was confused he was 5th in line for this tour)
this is a good yo-yo history

nz have enticed people before that never got a go because they were meh for their shield side. obviously somerville has avoided that risk (and it is in our fc comp which hates spinners) and capitalised on injuries and sodhi being crap

yessss ajaz
 

Spikey

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this is a good yo-yo history

nz have enticed people before that never got a go because they were meh for their shield side. obviously somerville has avoided that risk (and it is in our fc comp which hates spinners) and capitalised on injuries and sodhi being crap

yessss ajaz
again I just don't get why they recruited him (which is great!) but then had him 5th in line anyway. it's all worked out anyway, but a bit odd considering he's not the age Wagner was. I suppose one person may have been done the recruiting but then didn't have a say at the selection meetings

anyway still a long way to go, etc
 

Hicheal Michael

U19 Captain
Santner is a somewhat debatable selection given he doesn't take many wickets, which is I assume where you're coming from. At home though, he plus De Grandhomme are a good combination to boost both the bowling and batting.

I'll be interested to see how Ajaz (or maybe Somerville) goes at home in Santner's place, assuming Santner's not fit for the SL series.
IDK - just feel like CDG gets a bad rap at times. Some of the dismissals this series have been pretty bad, sure, but the guy will happily throw his wicket away when quick runs are needed. He seems to be quite an easy target for criticism, perhaps due to his rather innocent persona.

I actually think commentators and media have a huge influence in how players are perceived. All it takes is someone to be labelled 'a battler', or to be of 'great character' to the point where their flaws as players are overlooked.
 

Moss

International Captain
again I just don't get why they recruited him (which is great!) but then had him 5th in line anyway. it's all worked out anyway, but a bit odd considering he's not the age Wagner was. I suppose one person may have been done the recruiting but then didn't have a say at the selection meetings

anyway still a long way to go, etc
He'll still face a battle for regular appearances, NZ don't play a ton of test cricket to begin with and 2 spinners at home is a rarity. Santner probably will remain first choice on account of his batting ability, in his absence it's going to be a toss up between Somerville and Ajaz. There's a tour to SL next year I think which will probably be a big chance for him.
 

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
IDK - just feel like CDG gets a bad rap at times. Some of the dismissals this series have been pretty bad, sure, but the guy will happily throw his wicket away when quick runs are needed. He seems to be quite an easy target for criticism, perhaps due to his rather innocent persona.

I actually think commentators and media have a huge influence in how players are perceived. All it takes is someone to be labelled 'a battler', or to be of 'great character' to the point where their flaws as players are overlooked.
For whatever reason it seems like any overseas lure that comes to NZ get s a gig anyway. Ronchi got a gig in the Test side out of seemingly nowhere. It's almost as if they sign a contract with NZC where they guarantee them one test if they move.
 

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