You say that as if they not trying to do their job... as if they used to call no-balls and get it right all the time. My comment is that what we have found out is that to ask them to do that is not really a realistic task to give them along with all the rest, mistakes will have, are and will continue to be made, until something is done about it.
I disagree with this fundamentally, I think technology (like all the other that has come in) has shown that umpires where getting this wrong just as much in the past but we didn't know better.
The fact that umpires call fewer no-balls these days despite technology showing their regular occurrence says otherwise. And people have been taking recordings and talking about judgment of no-balls for much longer than you think (since the late thirties in fact).
Exactly
I've had a thought that with annoying gimmicks like zing bails and light up stumps being a thing these days the third umpire should have a constant watch on the crease and when a no-ball is bowled it would be easy enough to immediately send an obvious signal out (i.e. light up the stumps at one end or another) as soon as they are satisfied, though you'd have to be careful with how things might disrupt decisions for stumpings and so on. A speedy process that can be done all the time is much better for all concerned.
Okay, what are your suggestions then? Not unworkable things like you have already presented. It's one thing being all haughty and another actually suggesting something useful.
Which no-one has said otherwise and I am only arguing for the law to be enforced properly when clearly no-attempt is being made to do so. Straw men are easy aren't they? Once again, it is the umpire's responsibility and according to the rules theirs alone to enforce the rule properly.
I remember that argument when DRS was first coming in.
Hard to see anything unsound about it.
The assumption that the law is only being enforced differently is based on us finding out how often they have not been called now versus back then... I can't say how many were correct or how much the umpires got it right, because I have no evidence for this. But the assumption that these umpires don't care to do their job properly and others in the past did is entirely unfair.
Except there's clearly been a change in attitude wrt no ball calling, which is the issue at hand here.
Only started doing it this innings since I called him out tbf. I don't want to take too much credit but it's entirely thanks to me.
Aside from the fact this could be said in far fewer words, try actually coming up with a solution. Once again though the players might overstep it's not their job to enforce the laws. It's stupid making roundabout arguments to not really address the point.
I don't mean to be insulting, but this comes across like you've played done little fielding or umpiring. Except in a very limited range of circumstances the umpire is in a better position to watch for no-balls even with their other duties than the fielders.
Yet we are getting it wrong more than ever before. I can't think of too many fields where completely missing an important phenomenon occurring 40% of the time is acceptable. We are not using the technology to get it right, we are only using it when it suddenly becomes of paramount importance that it's right. Getting it right would have seen all the missed no-balls called. They are arguably getting it less right than ever at the moment.
And then get rid of umpires altogether because upstairs can handle any decisions.
Looks like he reckons he's seen enough of the bowling to have a bit of a dart now.
Twice in a week
I love that feeling when you think you influenced events way out of your control.
