Greg Chappell Vs Rahul Dravid - who was the better test match batsman?

[Starfighter]

Dravid's ball tampering is my earliest cricket memory.

 

[Burgey]

Understandable that you would remember such a disgraceful scandal.

 

[the big bambino]

they're really the most vile people aren't they. Drop a catch and then sledge a batsman for not walking when he wasn't even given out by the umpire. Ridiculous.

Funny thing is Matthews tried to claim a bumped ball catch off Curran yesterday but no outrage from you. Also love the tasteful remark about you guys trying to teach the “native Australians” culture. I’m sure that doesn’t sound like you are patronising the aboriginals at all. Want to make fun of their customs too? Go right ahead. You know it’ll make you look good.

 

[cnerd123]

I think it's been well established that cheating against England at all sports is acceptable, and is considered as repatriation for colonisation.

 

[OverratedSanity]

they're really the most vile people aren't they. Drop a catch and then sledge a batsman for not walking when he wasn't even given out by the umpire. Ridiculous.

They're cheats and they're liars. And some I assume are good people, although it's statistically unlikely.

 

[marc71178]

Funny thing is Matthews tried to claim a bumped ball catch off Curran yesterday but no outrage from you. Also love the tasteful remark about you guys trying to teach the “native Australians” culture. I’m sure that doesn’t sound like you are patronising the aboriginals at all. Want to make fun of their customs too? Go right ahead. You know it’ll make you look good.

How is standing up and shrugging his shoulders “claiming a catch”?

 

[Burgey]

So it's fair to say this thread has clearly established that not only was Chappell a far better player than Dravid, but sadly it's also definitively proved Rahul was a cheat and flouted the rules to obtain an illegal benefit for his side.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I think it's been well established that cheating against England at all sports is acceptable, and is considered as repatriation for colonisation.

Matthews didn't even claim the catch lol. bambino just straight up lied to try and make other countries' players look as bad as Australia's. Tbh, lying repeatedly is the only way to achieve that so its understandable.

 

[cnerd123]

They're cheats and they're liars. And some I assume are good people, although it's statistically unlikely.

You see, when Australia picks it's cricketers, they're not picking their best; they're not picking them. They're picking people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with them. They're bringing sledging. They're bringing ball tampering.

It's a real issue.

 

[cnerd123]

bambino just straight up lied

Well he is Australian. Can you blame him?

 

[the big bambino]

I think it's been well established that cheating against England at all sports is acceptable, and is considered as repatriation for colonisation.

Thanks for that. Didn’t know where the line was.

 

[OverratedSanity]

You see, when Australia picks it's cricketers, they're not picking their best; they're not picking them. They're picking people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with them. They're bringing sledging. They're bringing ball tampering.

It's a real issue.

The dishonesty underpinning their society never ceases to amaze.

 

[the big bambino]

How is standing up and shrugging his shoulders “claiming a catch”?

It clearly bounced. Clearly. But he allowed the umpire to refer it. When he could have just said it bounced. You know like Waugh should’ve.

 

[ankitj]

Claiming a catch when you might not know if it bounced is one thing. Claiming when you fully well know is pathetic and bad judgment. But when umpire deems your catch invalid and you go and bad mouth the batsmen is completely another level of vile. Like what was Dravid supposed to do? It's not just cheating, it's the sense of entitlement like the world owes you something.

 

[Burgey]

No response to my previous post as to what the thread has plainly established. That being so, there is universal agreement that I'm right and Dravid is both inferior to Chappell and a cheat.

 

[Burgey]

Claiming a catch when you might not know if it bounced is one thing. Claiming when you fully well know is pathetic and bad judgment. But when umpire deems your catch invalid and you go and bad mouth the batsmen is completely another level of vile. Like what was Dravid supposed to do? It's not just cheating, it's the sense of entitlement like the world owes you something.

cf Pietersen: not caught Dhoni, bowled Khan, Lord's. Hit the wrist guard on his glove, it bounced that far in front of him. Everyone at the ground knew it had bounced, including the Indian slips cordon. And who was in that cordon? Why, none other than Rahul Dravid and St Sachin of Selective Deafness. Worst episode of blatant cheating I've ever seen. Not surprising given the fielding side, but there it was in all its scurrilous ignominy.

 

[the big bambino]

Claiming a catch when you might not know if it bounced is one thing. Claiming when you fully well know is pathetic and bad judgment. But when umpire deems your catch invalid and you go and bad mouth the batsmen is completely another level of vile. Like what was Dravid supposed to do? It's not just cheating, it's the sense of entitlement like the world owes you something.

Haha look at all these Indians telling us where the line is. No way you can tell what a bloke knows or doesn’t when he appeals.

 

[OverratedSanity]

cf Pietersen: not caught Dhoni, bowled Khan, Lord's. Hit the wrist guard on his glove, it bounced that far in front of him. Everyone at the ground knew it had bounced, including the Indian slips cordon. And who was in that cordon? Why, none other than Rahul Dravid and St Sachin of Selective Deafness. Worst episode of blatant cheating I've ever seen. Not surprising given the fielding side, but there it was in all its scurrilous ignominy.

When Indian players cheat its always these isolated incidents. For Australia it's literally just business as usual.

 

[jimmy101]

Seemed to me Slater was just giving Dravid a good ol' fashioned send-off. Sure, it looks bad, but in another 10 years we'll all be complaining about how 'soft' the game has become & that we don't see stuff like that anymore.

 

[Burgey]

Exactly right, jimmy. It was very similar to the send off Anil Kumble gave Md Yousuf in a test match three weeks before he toured here in 2008 and banged on about the spirit of cricket when his side lost nine wickets in two sessions on the last day n Sydney, including three in an over to that well-known 21st century Hedley Verity, Michael Clarke.