Latest Review into Australian Cricket

[Spikey]

but then it seizes to be annoying, duh

Clarke trying to tell the senior guys when to sing the team song is pretty pushy and annoying anyways. I am not surprised they chose to troll him after that, and for him to snap and overreact in that manner does reflect pretty poorly on him.

But i'm sure there is more stuff behind all this. Straw that broke the camels back and all that.

this is the backstory basically, from whitewash to whitewash. again, what a weird culture. like at least 4 hours had passed since the game ended, just be like "hey we're gonna sing the song now and you can go to the city!" like normal human beings would

(I cut off the bit where Katich and Clarke talked to each other the next morning)

 

[the big bambino]

Guys on the piss do stupid things shocker.

 

[Spikey]

oh man, i'm flipping through this and I had forgotten about McGain and Hauritz preparing for SA by watching them play seam bowling

That quote from Ponting is why he wanted to be a selector btw

 

[cnerd123]

Yea look honestly Clarke seems to be the annoying one there trying to control the whole situation, and then just having no chill when people don't want to do what he wants to do.

Plus drunk people do dumb things. Unless Katich is constantly going to be drinking on the job, I don't see why you'd keep holding this incident against him.

 

[Second Spitter]

At that point Clarke had played like double the tests Katich had, and Katich had only re-entered the team like seven months prior to the incident...?

And also "junior player" vs "senior player" nonsense is a sign of a bad culture as it can very easily lead to bullying and even violent actions like pinning someone against the wall because of the team song

Bad culture than exists in 99.9% of workplaces worldwide.

Clarke's lack of humility was notorious. He had a Smith's Crisps factory on his shoulder about his socio-economic background and tried to compensate by constantly reminding everybody he was "Future Australian Captain" <tm>

 

[cnerd123]

Besides how is it an indictment of how dumb Australian Cricket is that a drunk man attacked another drunk man after being a called a ****? Isn't that basically Australia in a nutshell?

The whole thing with McGain and Hauritz is a much better example.

 

[Spikey]

Clarke's socio-economic background is basically the same as every other Metro NSW cricketer though? Public school, middle class, etc. I know i read an Ed Cowan quote where he mentioned he felt a bit out of place and that he wasn't taken as seriously because he was a private school boy (NSW cricketers, at least up until the 2000s, very rarely came through private schools. Cowan and Jackson Bird are two of the only ones. I suspect it's probably a bit different now)

 

[the big bambino]

Besides how is it an indictment of how dumb Australian Cricket is that a drunk man attacked another drunk man after being a called a ****? Isn't that basically Australia in a nutshell?

Apparently we're known for stereotyping too.

 

[Second Spitter]

Thankfully there's some cricket on tomorrow.

 

[Second Spitter]

Guys on the piss do stupid things shocker.

Like that transvestite outside of Bourbon&Beefsteak knows all too well.

 

[aussie tragic]

Like that transvestite outside of Bourbon&Beefsteak knows all too well.

I didn't know Ricky Ponting dressed up as a transvestite

 

[Starfighter]

Thankfully there's some cricket on tomorrow.

We mightn't be very thankful if last match's trends continue.

 

[vcs]

I just read that whole account.

How incredibly dumb and petty.

 

[TheJediBrah]

but then it seizes to be annoying, duh

*Ceases

 

[stephen]

oh man, i'm flipping through this and I had forgotten about McGain and Hauritz preparing for SA by watching them play seam bowling

That quote from Ponting is why he wanted to be a selector btw

Holy crap reading that made a lot of sense.

Really this is the problem spinners face at every level in Australian cricket. Captains not knowing how to use them, removing them from the attack after they've gone for a few in one over. And apparently getting picked when they have a muscle tear.

 

[TheJediBrah]

It really does make sense. McGain was a classy bowler for a few years there, it always surprised me how poorly he bowled in his Test.

 

[Dan]

Spikey fighting the good fight

 

[howardj]

I think one of the biggest things to come out of the review is the (not very shocking) finding that CA is money-hungry.

This feeds into:

- scheduling (the ridiculous expansion of the Big Bash this Summer, and the way the JLT and Shield has to fit in around it)
- TV rights (not ensuring that ODIs are on FTA)
- international players not being given a chance to play the less profitable competitions (Shield, JLT, grade cricket).

As the review points out, CA are a non-profit organisation and a key part of their charter is to ensure that the game is strong at all levels.

Australian cricket is a system, and unless all parts of that system are strong (including Shield and grade cricket) then there's eventually going to be a dearth of talent which we are perhaps witnessing now.

 

[Gnske]

Clarke's socio-economic background is basically the same as every other Metro NSW cricketer though? Public school, middle class, etc. I know i read an Ed Cowan quote where he mentioned he felt a bit out of place and that he wasn't taken as seriously because he was a private school boy (NSW cricketers, at least up until the 2000s, very rarely came through private schools. Cowan and Jackson Bird are two of the only ones. I suspect it's probably a bit different now)

I wouldn't have thought it'd be that much of a gap since private lads seem to be all union players, unless private vs public is a real 'us vs them' mentality.

Love the glimpse back into the Kat-strangle though. Hussey is the hidden villain.

 

[GotSpin]

Private schools don’t produce many FC players because they don’t play grade cricket young enough so I’m guessing that mentality does exist