***Official*** English Football Season 2018-19

[dontcloseyoureyes]

lmfaoooooooooooooo

 

[sledger]

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

There was a match in the Nations league the other day were England won beating Spain by 3 goals to 2. England were impressive in the second half but Spain regathered their thoughts and changed their system and scored twice without reply but England held on. A good match by all account.

Being honest I feel you should reduce the caffeine level in your diet as it makes you appear unreasonable and aggressive you obviously have problems socially which is why you are always here. And, immune to any moderation. I have to accept the forum rules don't apply to you and the general structure of this forum is chaos on occasion but there are some great people here and this can be a fantastic forum once it starts to sort out the trolls from the decent posters.

I have read a lot of what this 'cas' has written and can see a self absorbed selfish person with an agenda set about herself and a bit homophobic. You seem to have problems with new people so please relax and take it easy. I don't think you run the forum but you are immune to any rules which is very sad. Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Take care Em.

You ain't fooling anyone, person who's "been here less than 17 days" but knows all about the forum.

 

[EmJo]

You ain't fooling anyone, person who's "been here less than 17 days" but knows all about the forum.

You keep generalising, have your own opinion and stop following the troll wagon. I have, like many, watched the forums before joining to get a feel of what is going on and I have looked back at certain members posts to see that something here is wrong. A forum should be informative and on topic not devoid of subject matter and full of angry teen boys bashing their keyboards. It doesn't take a lot of effort to read through certain threads and I am trained to skim read a lot.


New thread title, 'anger management' I deal with teens everyday so please, either curb it or start to be more factual in the threads. And stick to facts not gossip.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

You keep generalising, have your own opinion and stop following the troll wagon. I have, like many, watched the forums before joining to get a feel of what is going on and I have looked back at certain members posts to see that something here is wrong. A forum should be informative and on topic not devoid of subject matter and full of angry teen boys bashing their keyboards. It doesn't take a lot of effort to read through certain threads and I am trained to skim read a lot.


New thread title, 'anger management' I deal with teens everyday so please, either curb it or start to be more factual in the threads. And stick to facts not gossip.

What do you mean by "keep generalising"? As far as I know, that post was the first I'd posted in your general direction. It wasn't even a generalisation, more speculation. Unless, perhaps, we've interacted before on, say, another account? I'm riding no wagon, just having my own opinion. You aren't fooling anyone, especially the people running the forum.

Yes, I too read specific posts from specific people I've definitely never heard of or known before. That's what well-adjusted new forum members do.

As far as being informative and on topic I'd say this place is one of the best forums that I've been on. Cricket Chat is full of fantastic analysis. This is a cricket forum, the information you should seek from posting here should largely be cricketing information. Other than that, I can't see an argument for everyone being experts on everything. In any case, you don't police this forum. Taking you at your word, you are a new member and this place has been running for nigh on two decades. The way it has always been and will always be run will not change. You've not invested much here, you're free to stop posting here if the standard of analysis outside of the cricketing scope doesn't meet your standards.

For someone who deals with teenagers all day you sure are poor at spotting them. Unless you were being facetious, of course.

 

[andmark]

Well to kick on from that divisive moment, Shahid Khan has withdrawn his offer to buy Wembley. Good decision I'd suggest. If the UK is to get into the NFL, buying England's "home of football" would've been the equivalent of asking someone for a favour, only to insult their wife and kids. I'm not convinced the UK population could ever get into American Football en masse anyway given a large number of things such as it being regarded by some as the American form of rugby "with pads" (not that American Football is safer by any means).

 

[cpr]

Erm, the UK has pretty much bought into the NFL. Wembley sells out every time, viewing figures are pretty decent on Sky, enough for the beeb to want a slice of the pie in the reg season as well as the Superbowl. Clubs are growing at a fantastic rate, and theres a real drive seeing it started to be played in schools. Its not football popular, but its got to be one of the fastest growing sports in the UK.

 

[cpr]

I have, like many, watched the forums before joining to get a feel of what is going on

Do people really do that? I mean, do they really do that?
People actually research which cricket forum to waste 10 mins on a day? Is it that important a decision to get right, like other forums will shun you for once being on here?
Or do people see a forum, notice its pretty busy, sign up because its free and takes 4 seconds, then decide if they want to post as they are reading through.

I mean, I think its definitely the latter, but then I've a habit of making awful predictions in the footie threads so.....

 

[andmark]

Erm, the UK has pretty much bought into the NFL. Wembley sells out every time, viewing figures are pretty decent on Sky, enough for the beeb to want a slice of the pie in the reg season as well as the Superbowl. Clubs are growing at a fantastic rate, and theres a real drive seeing it started to be played in schools. Its not football popular, but its got to be one of the fastest growing sports in the UK.

Don't get me wrong, I agree that it's a quickly growing sport in the UK, and I'm a fan of it myself. The problem with the Wembley matches is that they only have a few each year. If they were to have a whole season, the average attendances would almost certainly be much lower. I'm not sure of the Sky viewership levels, so I'll just trust you being right on that. Yeah, it might be a relatively big sport here, but I don't think Wembley was the best option if they were to make a team permanently in England. White Hart Lane may have been a better option due to the less risk of excess seating and how much cheaper it would've been given Spurs want (and are getting) a bigger stadium anyway, but that bird has flown.

 

[cpr]

Dunno, I reckon they could do alright on Wembley as a permanent base going forward. It'd be 8 regular season games, so only 5 more than now, and they are the only team in a city of 8m, with another 60m within travelling distance to make up the numbers. Support wise they would have such a free market to themselves that they would be able to fill the stadium, even if most of the supporters are just going to one game every couple of seasons.

 

[andmark]

It would be interesting to see how they would market themselves if it ever was to happen. It'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they didn't do some sort of nation-wide team and instead just called themselves something relating to London. Someone else taking over Jacksonville (Vince McMahon?) could cause an interesting rivalry as well.

 

[EmJo]

Erm, the UK has pretty much bought into the NFL. Wembley sells out every time, viewing figures are pretty decent on Sky, enough for the beeb to want a slice of the pie in the reg season as well as the Superbowl. Clubs are growing at a fantastic rate, and theres a real drive seeing it started to be played in schools. Its not football popular, but its got to be one of the fastest growing sports in the UK.

But how many of these people would become core supporters. Going each week? What happens after a few losing seasons? Maybe the 'gimmick' effect will wear off but you are correct there is a good following of the sport here in the UK. London is the only choice considering the population base.

 

[EmJo]

It would be interesting to see how they would market themselves if it ever was to happen. It'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they didn't do some sort of nation-wide team and instead just called themselves something relating to London. Someone else taking over Jacksonville (Vince McMahon?) could cause an interesting rivalry as well.

The trouble I find with the American football at Wembley is when does it start to turn into a gimmick? Don't get me wrong I like to dabble in the sport but don't have any allegiance. Would anyone up north have any interest with a London based franchise possibly fans of the sport but from a casual perspective maybe a no. We are far too into Football and Rugby league. I have to admit there is a tendency to pour scorn on the capitol as it is generally too far south but begrudgingly we still travel to finals and the odd England game (didn't England fair better travelling around?).

The trouble is with any franchise sport it will need a fan base and core support, would this exist and if the team was to have a couple of losing seasons would this drop off? Does success mean a second franchise and where? I do feel the team would play predominantly in the new Spurs stadium as it has been designed with both sports in mind and practically built around these factors. Hence why the moveable pitch.

Vince McMahon would be an ideal choice considering his success with WWE and other wrestling events so with this he can best position a franchise towards success. There is a solid fan base of WWE in the UK so maybe he can build up a core following for a London based NFL franchise.

 

[EmJo]

Well to kick on from that divisive moment, Shahid Khan has withdrawn his offer to buy Wembley. Good decision I'd suggest. If the UK is to get into the NFL, buying England's "home of football" would've been the equivalent of asking someone for a favour, only to insult their wife and kids. I'm not convinced the UK population could ever get into American Football en masse anyway given a large number of things such as it being regarded by some as the American form of rugby "with pads" (not that American Football is safer by any means).

I don't feel Wembley is the stadium of choice as there are too many other events happening and often NFL teams don't usually own their own stadiums but get subsidiaries to run it (management companies) the holding company being the Franchise. I feel the new Tottenham stadium would be the choice stadium as it has been built with both sports in mind. Will NFL work in the capitol. How many Elite league Ice hockey teams are there? Maybe Ice hockey has a smaller following but when does interest move into core support and then culture. The NFL feeds of the cultural roots of the college game but has developed well and has a great standing in the American psyche.

 

[andmark]

I don't feel Wembley is the stadium of choice as there are too many other events happening and often NFL teams don't usually own their own stadiums but get subsidiaries to run it (management companies) the holding company being the Franchise. I feel the new Tottenham stadium would be the choice stadium as it has been built with both sports in mind. Will NFL work in the capitol. How many Elite league Ice hockey teams are there? Maybe Ice hockey has a smaller following but when does interest move into core support and then culture. The NFL feeds of the cultural roots of the college game but has developed well and has a great standing in the American psyche.

Yeah, the funding of NFL stadiums is quite a big issue. I've heard stories like franchises getting the local taxpayers to pay for stadiums, only to play a few seasons and leave- leaving the public with debt. That sort of horror situation would thankfully be unlikely if a team was ever to be made in the UK given the commitment needed to set up a team in a new country The new Tottenham stadium is an interesting one given. As you say, the design is partly for NFL matches, which would imply that Spurs are inviting games there.

 

[andmark]

But how many of these people would become core supporters. Going each week? What happens after a few losing seasons? Maybe the 'gimmick' effect will wear off but you are correct there is a good following of the sport here in the UK. London is the only choice considering the population base.

Knowing the UK's luck, we'd become the new Cleveland.

 

[EmJo]

Knowing the UK's luck, we'd become the new Cleveland.

We'll haven't they picked up a bit this season but still bottom of their division, they still seem to have a decent fan base but Jacksonville are a prime mover?

Being honest from where I work the Tottenham stadium does look impressive this I feel is a more acceptable place to have a team.

 

[andmark]

We'll haven't they picked up a bit this season but still bottom of their division, they still seem to have a decent fan base but Jacksonville are a prime mover?

I was just referring to Cleveland's two year losing streak or whatever it was. I believe Jacksonville are the favourites as Shahid Khan represents them.

 

[Ausage]

The trouble I find with the American football at Wembley is when does it start to turn into a gimmick? Don't get me wrong I like to dabble in the sport but don't have any allegiance. Would anyone up north have any interest with a London based franchise possibly fans of the sport but from a casual perspective maybe a no. We are far too into Football and Rugby league. I have to admit there is a tendency to pour scorn on the capitol as it is generally too far south but begrudgingly we still travel to finals and the odd England game (didn't England fair better travelling around?).

Heh.

 

[EmJo]

I was just referring to Cleveland's two year losing streak or whatever it was. I believe Jacksonville are the favourites as Shahid Khan represents them.

Yes, Cleveland were the habitual team to be a on a downer but You are correct Jacksonville would be the team to give way. I was rather hoping the fixture on the 13th April would be at the new stadium and three points for us.