DoG's Top 100 Test Bowlers Countdown Thread 100-1

[OverratedSanity]

Fazal, Ntini, Gough, Gupte, Akhtar, Asif, Vaas, Johnson, Bedser, Macgill

 

[OverratedSanity]

Also, did Ryan Harris and Rabada miss the countdown entirely? Rabada hasn't had the longest career but I assumed his quality points must be immense.

 

[Days of Grace]

Fazal, Ntini, Gough, Gupte, Akhtar, Asif, Vaas, Johnson, Bedser, Macgill

Vaas came in at no.94.

 

[NUFAN]

Sorry if some of these guys have already been announced:
Roberts Johnson Ntini Snow Botham Underwood Rabada Fazal Akhtar Kumble.

 

[Days of Grace]

51 SCJ Broad 728
52 BS Chandrasekhar 728
53 N Kapil Dev 726
54 CJ McDermott 726
55 AR Caddick 725
56 JR Thomson 724
57 ARC Fraser 722
58 Harbhajan Singh 722
59 H Trumble 720
60 M Morkel 719
61 MA Starc 717
62 GP Swann 717
63 NAT Adcock 716
64 LR Gibbs 715
65 Saeed Ajmal 715
66 R Benaud 715
67 CTB Turner 708
68 JH Wardle 701
69 TM Alderman 700
70 JB Statham 700
71 GD McKenzie 700
72 SR Clark 699
73 JN Gillespie 698
74 MW Tate 694
75 FH Tyson 694
76 KR Miller 694
77 B Lee 685
78 MG Hughes 684
79 SCG MacGill 683
80 GF Lawson 682
81 Saqlain Mushtaq 681
82 BS Bedi 681
83 CL Cairns 674
84 TA Boult 672
85 JR Hazlewood 672
86 HH Streak 671
87 MJ Hoggard 670
88 WA Johnston 670
89 Z Khan 668
90 H Verity 667
91 N Wagner 667
92 SE Bond 665
93 PM Siddle 664
94 WPUJC Vaas 663
95 BA Reid 656
96 GAR Lock 655
97 EAS Prasanna 655
98 Danish Kaneria 654
99 NM Lyon 650
100 BR Taylor 649

Only 79 points separates no.51 to no.100. So I would consider Caddick, McDermott, and Gillespie to be on about the same tier. The next 25 places on the list will be separated by 78 points.

 

[mr_mister]

I could easily see Larwood not making it at all. Poor test average and his longevity works against him too. People who rate Larwood as an ATG don't base it on his test stats that's for sure

 

[trundler]

McDermott and Swann are probably the rankings I've been most delighted to see so far.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Sorry if some of these guys have already been announced:
Roberts Johnson Ntini Snow Botham Underwood Rabada Fazal Akhtar Kumble.

Ooh, Botham will definitely be in 50-41,good call.

 

[Starfighter]

People who rate Larwood as an ATG don't base it on his test stats that's for sure

I think this is pretty well acknowledged on here at least.

 

[ankitj]

Daniel Vettori is going to completely miss out it seems. If yes, will he be the only one to miss out despite taking 300+ test wickets?

 

[stephen]

Broad's 8/15 is the highest rated bowling performance ever.

This doesn't actually surprise me. Australia had on paper a very decent batting lineup at the time and had just come off a relatively easy period of cricket. The batting lineup was pretty decent too:

Rogers
Warner
Smith
Marsh
Clarke
Voges
Nevill
Johnson
Starc
Hazlewood
Lyon

At the time Voges was coming off a run of red hot form, Rogers was a very good opener, Smith is an ATG, Clarke was very close to being an ATG, Warner has always been a very good opener statistically. Only Nevill and Marsh had mediocre CVs in the top 7. Johnson and Starc can both hold a bat.

To run through such a side with 8/15 was ridiculous and the peak of Broad's ability.

 

[NUFAN]

Ooh, Botham will definitely be in 50-41,good call.

I might be way off but I expect Underwood to appear in the next 2 or 3 players. Or was his strike rate too high?

 

[stephen]

Actually I was wrong about the timing of Voges - it was before his ridiculous run.

 

[Brian Lara]

No.51

Stuart Broad (England) 728

Quality Points: 617
Career Points: 110

Career: 2007-
Wickets: 433
Gold Performances: 6
5/37 vs. Australia at The Oval 2009 (17.60)
6/46 vs. India at Nottingham 2011 (15.67)
7/44 vs. New Zealand at Lord's 2013 (16.28)
6/25 vs. India at Manchester 2014 (16.42)
8/15 vs. Australia at Nottingham 2015 (22.75)
6/17 vs. South Africa at Johannesburg 2016 (19.66)
Silver Performances: 7
Bronze Performances: 11

Overall Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 26.37 (28.93) 60.13 (58.33) 3.81
50 Innings Peak Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings (2014-2016): 21.40 51.52 4.45
Non-Home Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 29.01 68.38 3.32
Quality Opposition Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 25.66 59.35 3.98

Broad's 8/15 is the highest rated bowling performance ever.

WAG broad. So happy to see Englishmen doing well. 8/15, GOAT!

 

[Brian Lara]

Ntini, botham, akhtar, herath, vettori, Roberts, Davidson, rabada, trumble, gough

 

[Burgey]

I see that Chandra must've held the record for best twin figures in a match before O'Keefe's effort in India last year. Quite remarkable. That whole series always sounded very interesting to me, but there's so little of the offical cricket during the WSC years available.

Jim Laker took 19 in a match though.

 

[Starfighter]

Jim Laker took 19 in a match though.

Read my comment again.

 

[Days of Grace]

No.50

Wes Hall (West Indies) 728

Quality Points: 669
Career Points: 59

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOZCht-zQN4

Career: 1958-1969
Wickets: 192
Gold Performances: 3
7/69 vs. England at Kingston 1960 (15.97)
6/49 vs. India at Kingston 1962 (15.48)
5/20 vs. India at Port of Spain 1962 (17.18)
Silver Performances: 4
Bronze Performances: 3

Overall Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 25.56 (26.39) 46.52 (54.28) 4.34
50 Innings Peak Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings (1958-1963): 22.16 42.32 5.32
Non-Home Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 26.31 47.15 4.16
Quality Opposition Average/Strike-Rate/Points Per Innings: 29.83 51.68 3.91

Wes Hall was right up there with Holding, Roberts, Garner, et al in the first half of his career, before fading quite badly in his latter half.

First half (1958-1962): 21.79 41.59 5.33
Second half (1963-1969): 31.57 54.42 3.29

Also loved playing against a relatively weak Indian side.

I will try to post videos as well as photos for the top 50. In the above video, you can see that Wes Hall certainly looks the part.

 

[Starfighter]

Sorry, I've just gotta say it again, the average adjustment is really unfair on players in the late-fifties-sixties compared to the 2000s.

 

[Slifer]

Hmm at least 7 bowlers in the top 50?? Not bad. Too bad we (wi) probably won't have any more for who knows how long...