*Official* India Tour of England 2018

[SeamUp]

Not as clear cut as some would believe but I don't think his bat hit it.

 

[slippy888]

England have always gotten home calls it makes a change for a few to go against

 

[Starfighter]

Who's whinging, someone who thinks toss didn't make a difference at Lords or me who's countering the argument that (only) Kohli's been incredibly lucky? BTW you still did win 4 tosses in India, so stop with your made up stories.

What was I making up? You're just having a whine, which is the last thing I'd do when the team I support has been on the lucky side of a marginal umpiring decision.

 

[Spark]

Not as clear cut as some would believe but I don't think his bat hit it.

With the obvious caveat that a still 2D image is a particularly bad representation of 3D motion, that looks totally inconclusive to me and thus the right decision was made if in a weird way. A far cry from "ball was nowhere near the bat" which is what I've been reading on Twitter.

 

[morgieb]

Not as clear cut as some would believe but I don't think his bat hit it.

Hmmm....also remember that the original decision was not out. I don't think he hit it either, but you can't really say for sure from those shots.

HotSpot was really needed there.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Not as clear cut as some would believe but I don't think his bat hit it.

I certainly think there's some doubt in it. So in the end I sort of understand Wilson saying he wasn't sure whether it hit the bat and gave Kohli the benefit of the doubt. However, he seemed to jump the gun and assumed it definitely hit the bat. In the end I dont think it changed the decision because imo, most umpires wouldve rock-and-rolled a few times and said it was too doubtful to proceed.

Basically, Root should cop it, and umpires should rock-and-roll before making their decisions. Bring Kumar back into the box.

 

[Adders]

There was a camera angle from the off side that was clear as ****ing mud there was no bat on it.

 

[OverratedSanity]

There was a camera angle from the leg side that was clear as ****ing mud there was no bat on it.

Can never tell a leg side angle can you?

 

[theegyptian]

I don't think it was really conclusive either way so can't real have any complaints that the decision wasn't overturned.

I'd have plenty of complaints about the decision making process. For the 3rd umpire to basically take 15 seconds on that decision was terrible. I rather think he completely overlooked the bat hitting pat. He should have used more replays to try and ascertain where the contact came.

 

[slippy888]

The real question is why no hot spot

 

[R!TTER]

What was I making up? You're just having a whine, which is the last thing I'd do when the team I support has been on the lucky side of a marginal umpiring decision.

Go back to the original point I was making, then come up with a better excuse than England winning 4 tosses in India & yet losing 4-nil.

 

[Arachnodouche]

Probably would have gone down leg considering he bowled it from deep in the crease.

 

[Starfighter]

Go back to the original point I was making, then come up with a better excuse than England winning 4 tosses in India & yet losing 4-nil.

It's hard when you had no point to begin with. None.

 

[Adders]

Probably would have gone down leg considering he bowled it from deep in the crease.

Hawkeye showed it smashing leg

 

[Arachnodouche]

Cept he's winning dumbass.

Look that DRS review was ****ing woeful by the 3rd ump. I'm absolutely seathing here.......reckon Root has a right to be little ticked off.

You can keep seathing until your sheath wears off. Root ought to take the ump's decision and shut up.

 

[SeamUp]

With the obvious caveat that a still 2D image is a particularly bad representation of 3D motion, that looks totally inconclusive to me and thus the right decision was made if in a weird way. A far cry from "ball was nowhere near the bat" which is what I've been reading on Twitter.

That's my thinking too. I think the rules were followed by the 3rd umpire. It was up for interpretation and because it wasn't conclusive enough to over turn that's how it goes.

I thought there was a change in rule for Snicko/Ultra edge that there was more trust. But with the fact there was disturbance (even if not high frequency) the time it went past the bat he made the right call. We can't say it was wrong.

Personally I don't think he hit it but that's just my cricketing feel for the game watching it. I think most of us cricketing nerds will feel this watching the footage at the time and seeing the above.

 

[Adders]

You can keep seathing until your sheath wears off. Root ought to take the ump's decision and shut up.

WTF?? Seriously?

 

[Daemon]

Who's whinging, someone who thinks toss didn't make a difference at Lords or me who's countering the argument that (only) Kohli's been incredibly lucky? BTW you still did win 4 tosses in India, so stop with your made up stories.

What was I making up? You're just having a whine, which is the last thing I'd do when the team I support has been on the lucky side of a marginal umpiring decision.

Cept he's winning dumbass.

You can keep seathing until your sheath wears off. Root ought to take the ump's decision and shut up.

Come on bois, this has been a pretty good natured thread and a great series. No need for all this.

 

[morgieb]

The real question is why no hot spot

Sky didn't offer it. I reckon 95% of the time Snicko is usually enough to tell if the batsman hit it or not, but these are circumstances where HotSpot is necessary. Given that HotSpot has failed to pick up very faint edges in the past you could argue that it could've sawn Kohli off, but I feel in this case it was more likely he didn't hit it.

 

[R!TTER]

It's hard when you had no point to begin with. None.

Right & that's when I explained how 4 (or 5) tosses won in a row makes a difference to the outcome of the series. Not all tosses are unimportant but neither is every toss 50/50 - you're either being too thick or deliberately obtuse.

Come on bois, this has been a pretty good natured thread and a great series. No need for all this.

My point's made, so that's it